What Happens After Israel Flattens Gaza?
October 11th, 2023Less than a week after Hamas launched attacks inside Israel, large swaths of Gaza look like Dresden in World War 2.
Israel is responding to the atrocities unleashed by Hamas by razing entire neighborhoods with around-the-clock aerial bombardment, enforcing a total siege on Gaza (no food, no water, no electricity, no fuel) and preventing civilians from fleeing the area.
Israel is clearly committing war crimes with the indiscriminate bombing of civilian neighborhoods and collective punishment of the civilian population in Gaza.
This is just the beginning. Israel’s ground operation has not even started.
While Israel has been committing atrocities against Palestinians for decades, the flagrancy and ferocity of this looks different than what we have seen in the past.
Where is this headed?
Let’s check in with Lindsey Graham: “We’re in a religious war here. I am with Israel. Do whatever the hell you have to do to defend yourself. Level the place.”
We’re in a religious war and I unapologetically Stand with Israel. pic.twitter.com/AQDY4ELrmJ
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) October 11, 2023
Level the place.
There are over two million people in Gaza…
What I’m noticing is a sort of Covidization of the situation in Israel. As with Covid, an increasingly absurd information warfare payload is being delivered to target populations in developed countries who suffer from both total ignorance of the situation and amnesia of what has been done to them in even the recent past. Their minds are already, softened up.
The narrative is presented in black and white terms, without historical context.
Accept this narrative, without question, or you’re with the terrorists.
Almost nobody is considering the fact that what Hamas did a few days ago was about as likely as what happened on 9/11. In other words, the mainstream explanations are completely, laughably, absurdly impossible.
Whatever is coming, it’s not going to be contained to Israel.
Years ago there was a plan, A Clean Break: Project for the New American Century (PNAC), to wreck the Oslo peace accords between Israel and the Palestinians and to re-mold the Middle East. It first involved destroying Iraq or in the discredited words of Paul Wolfowitz, “The road to peace in the Middle East goes through Baghdad.”
Destroying Syria was to be next. And then Iran.
We might be witnessing the beginning of PNAC’s coup de grâce.
Well said Kevin. I feel like you just organized the thoughts going through my head.
Where is this headed? Somewhere bad fast my guess. The USS Gerald Ford may stumble. Who knows? But your take on a propagandized population is dead on. Pavlovian.
Lives in the Balance
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j3YcZ233MIs
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-plans-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza.html#more
“Today, however, with Bibi bringing in the full might of NATO to the Eastern Mediterranean to threaten not only Lebanon but Russian bases in Syria, it’s no more Mr. Nice Guy. With Patrushin and Shoygu holding the reins of state and a clear and present NATO threat on Syria’s doorstep, expect a strong and unexpected Russian intervention in the multifront Israel-Hamas-Hezbollah war.”
There are so many cui bonos to this situation that I think it impossible to extrapolate it too far forward.
That said, I will propose this outlier: a Russian-brokered peace deal of Nobel Prize-winning proportions, built around Russia guaranteeing peace through becoming invested in Israel’s Leviathan gas field and developing infrastructure for it. With America as “The Great Satan”, and with Russia able to corral the Islamic factions behind its strategy in the M.E., I think it is better positioned to act as peace broker than anyone else.
But… any deal it would arrange would come with a promise to the Muslims of a secret betrayal of Israel on down the line, which would be the “sell” to bring the Muslims on board. Then it would only be a waiting game until the US is so utterly dysfunctional with domestic turmoil and stretched, say, in the Pacific, and the day of dividing the spoils in Palestine would dawn.
Religious war… Where have we heard this before?
Zbignew to the Mujahadeen: “your cause is right, and god is on your side”
https://youtu.be/A9RCFZnWGE0?si=9E87bu45GRA11OP5
Rumsfeld – Iraq war briefings headlined with biblical quotes
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/may/18/rumsfeld-gq-iraq-bible-quotes-bush
http://media.schadenfreude.net/2009/05/rumsfeldisashithead.jpg
None of this ends well. Syria brings Russia in, probably Iran as well, possibly China, against US, Israel, Britain, France, Germany and NATO, and then you have WWIII. This could be the Frans Ferdinand moment unless cooler heads prevail. But more than likely not something anyone is interested in with the videos of people calling for leveling of all of Gaza & West Bank, and Lindsay “Lady G” Graham never finding a war he didn’t love.
The populace is literally in a state of perpetual propaganda that they don’t realize they’re in. They can’t recognize we are just canon fodder for the powerful, their playthings to move around the chessboard however they want. Unless you can look at everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, as a psyop, their emotions run high and need to be fixated on the “other” as pure evil incarnate to be wiped off the planet.
We saw it after 911, they’ve done it with Russia since the cold war, and it is always how the powerful get the masses to hate their “enemy”.
And again, we’re supposed to believe the IDF, and all the alphabet agencies of the world knew nothing about this potentiality? Just like 911, nobody knew it was coming. But I’m the conspiracy guy.
You all have said it all. What to do now but watch and wait somewhere out of the way, while those whose vicious instincts have been aroused by the psyops worked upon them slaughter everyone they can.
No one in the global cabal is talking of mediation or rescuing non-combatants; it’s all about bringing more and more countries into the conflict and killing, killing, killing. Everything they do involves making others suffer and die.
Is it really about establishing a one-world govt, or is that just the means to another end — establishing a permanent system in which the powerful can abuse, torture and kill the powerless whenever and however they want? Earth as a slave farm, a body-parts factory, a hunting preserve?
FWIW, cryingfreeman’s scenario could pave the way for events something like what’s described in Ezekiel 38.
Dennis, there is a possible hint in Ez 38:14 that “Gog”, the leader of Russia, will broker any peace deal. Other pieces that have to fall into place include NATO country Turkey (Togarmah) fully pivoting to Russia and a thawing in relations between Sunni and Shi’a Islam, although if there is one unifying issue between them, surely it would be the Israel-Palestine situation.
As you allude to, Kevin, this is indeed Israel’s 911, which means they got exactly the excuse they needed and wanted to do whatever they want to their enemies. The parallels are so clear, and the cui bono so obvious, it’s like what Hollywood does these days, “reboot” the same script and hope people will still buy into it. And people are definitely buying into it.
From the Twitter/X account of Haaretz.com:
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy”
@Loveandlight !!!
Wow.
https://archive.ph/H8LSL
Hamas as partner
Effectively, Netanyahu’s entire worldview collapsed over the course of a single day. He was convinced that he could make deals with corrupt Arab tyrants while ignoring the cornerstone of the Arab-Jewish conflict, the Palestinians. His life’s work was to turn the ship of state from the course steered by his predecessors, from Yitzhak Rabin to Ehud Olmert, and make the two-state solution impossible. En route to this goal, he found a partner in Hamas.
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
Yeah Loveandlight–quote of the century. Within that sentence, given that Israel was a primary driver in creating Hamas, a world of understanding is available.
Regarding Gog and Magog, the narrative has morphed wildly over the millennia within different cultures and religions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
Is Gog afoot today? Thierry Meyssan has written a ton of insightful articles on the structure of power in the World–maybe Putin/Russia are engaged in the battle against Gog. (at the top of the article hit Text A- to make it more readable).
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2023/01/13/russia-declares-war-on-the-straussians/
@Loveandlight
Attributed to Henry Kissinger during his time as Secretary of State: “Israel sets fire to its hair and puts it out with a hammer.”
@NH
First heard of Strauss in a BBC doco series called ‘The Power of Nightmares’. Started reading expecting mention of the PNAC and was not disappointed.
Have long wondered at the contrast between nations clearly named in prophecy or clearly identifiable geographically and those that challenge attempts to identify them. Looked at the Gog stuff. Thanks. Seems the main idea conveyed is of attacking hordes from distant lands, but perhaps we’ll understand what’s being said more clearly in future.
I remember a few years ago seeing a video of Russia’s Cathedral for the Russian Armed Forces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KOCkjEjFhw
Potent symbolism equating military service to the motherland with religious worship. A clever recruiting tool, certainly, hinting then at plans for future military action, but it also seemed to portend something I couldn’t yet grasp and I began to wonder whether Russia might one day play a role in opposition to a military force still to arise.
Dennis — “the main idea conveyed is of attacking hordes from distant lands”? Well, I’ve got that in my back yard already. They’ve just not mugged me yet or carjacked me yet, because I stay indoors a lot and I have a dog. And our small-town police and sheriff are quick to respond to any call and are on the side of truth, justice, and the American way.
Evangelical preacher Jack Van Impe was convinced back in the nineties that Russia was Magog. Of course, this was back in 1991 when the Soviet Union was still around, and he so believed it would be around forever, he appeared to be convinced that the failure of the coup that led to end of the Soviet Union was some kind of ruse to lull the West into a state of complacency.
@Snowman
What I meant was that in the information you referenced on Wikipedia, that seemed to be the commonality.
@Loveandlight
Yes, a similar mistake was made by Dake, who wrote the following in his reference bible, first published in 1963, in his notes on the prophecies of Daniel:
“Russia must be defeated before the 10 kingdoms can be formed, for she controls Albania, Romania, Bulgaria, and Hungary, which are countries of the old Roman Empire territory. Russia will not give up these states without war.”