Raw Milk and Lifting the Veil that has Been Pulled Over Our Eyes
January 28th, 2007As all of you know, I find the “expert” opinions on medicine, energy, economics and several other areas to be riddled with bullshit.
I have found that experimentation always trumps theory. No number of people with PhDs, paid trolls or “peer reviewed” journals are going to convince me that something that works for me isn’t working for me.
The war against raw milk is very interesting and illustrative; it sums up the political and economic situation that has the world in a death grip.
WARNING: Contents may destroy your current perception of reality.
The “authorities” will tell you that raw milk is a profoundly dangerous substance that can only be rendered “safe” for human consumption by pasteurization. It is illegal to sell raw milk in most “advanced economies.”
This is bullshit.
How do I know it’s bullshit? Was it by reading sites like Real Milk and the material published by the Weston A. Price Foundation?
No. That’s not how I know that the pseudo-scientific quackery of the corrupt authorities is bullshit.
And what about the sinus congestion I’ve experienced—my entire life—that accompanied the consumption of pasteurized/homogenized dairy products?
With the whole, unpasteurized milk, these symptoms have been completely eliminated.
Anyone who tries to tell me that this isn’t happening is a dangerous liar. Anyone who tries to tell me that this isn’t happening is a fraud. Any organization that advocates the position that whole raw milk from pasture raised animals is dangerous has no legitimacy and must be outed as as a criminal front. My wife and I are living, breathing proof that what is being said about raw milk by the “authorities” is a lie. I encourage you to look into the complex of issues surrounding raw milk, and prepare for a hard lesson in the politics and economics of unchecked fascism.
Then make raw milk a part of your life.
The truth behind raw milk punches a hole in official reality that is big enough to free your entire consciousness. If so many lies are being told and enforced by people with guns about something as simple as milk, logically, we must conclude that much of what we think we know is dead wrong.
Examine all assumptions. Accept no dogma from ANYONE. You will know the validity of a thing, or not, by the results you get.
Related: The Untold Story of Milk
AFAIK the ban on raw milk is caused by industrial agriculture and what it has done to the cows. These cows are given growth hormones, and in the end the produce so much milk that the udders are chronically infected and there is actual puss in milk. The “farmers” give the cows antibiotics, too, to kill of the germs, but that is expensive, so it’s cheaper to give them just enough so they survive, and then pasteurize the milk.
If you get the milk from real cows that are treated with respect, these issues don’t apply, obviously. You might still catch something, though, but then, you can always catch something.
Examine all assumptions. Accept no dogma from ANYONE. You will know the validity of a thing, or not, by the results you get.
The sentiment has worked for me so far as to the question of the efficacy of cigarette smoking.
When all sorts of people I know get sick and I fully expect to become so as well, I have always dodged the bullet. More and more I have chalked this up to my nicotine addiction. (knocks on wood)
Maybe it’s just the knocking on wood that does it. 😉
As with any industry, there’s a drive to make a profit. I believe Fefe’s statement to be true.
I grew up on a small cattle farm. Our cattle were treated well, grain fed twice a day, and allowed to graze in nice big pastures. They had no concerns in the world.
I’ve never eaten meat that tasted as good as our cattle. I suspect I won’t again, unless I find a small local slaughterhouse.
The same applies to other things we grew. We had about 40 chickens, and a few other animals from time to time (goats, pigs, and even turkeys).
I’d comment on the milk itself, but since we didn’t have any dairy cows, I can’t give an educated answer.
When I was reading the story though, I had one thought on the sinus congestion. You were in Southern California, right? That *MAY* have been a cause. The air in California isn’t exactly the cleanest. It’s all varying degrees of filth. But, I only know what you wrote, I’m not the 1st hand observer.
I don’t typically have breathing problems, but I grew up in Florida. When I moved to California, there was a notable difference. In 5 years of being there, my ears began ringing a lot, among other problems. I finally went to a doctor who diagnosed it well. The pollution was making a mess of my upper resperatory system, which was blocking my eustation tubes, which left my ear drums bulging, which made the ringing sound.
Part of that too, was the fact that I’d change elevation by about 1000 feet several times a day.
I’m not back to perfect yet, but being out of S. California has helped a lot. I’m not coughing and sneezing, and I’m generally healthier.
I think you’re on the right track for being healthier. Congratulations.
sick cows. their milk would have to be disposed of until they got better. except if you pasteurize it, the bacteria die.
JWsmythe,
You wrote:
“When I was reading the story though, I had one thought on the sinus congestion. You were in Southern California, right? That *MAY* have been a cause.”
Nope.
I got the same congestion from pasteurized milk in New Zealand.
Dude, take a chill. Pasturization is not part of the evil one-world conspiracy. If raw milk is ok for baby cows, it’s ok for humans. A child can figure that out. If you live close enough to a farm to get it, great. The problem is transportation.
Pasteurization was developed to make food safe for long term storage so that it can get to the cityfolk without killing them. Generations of New Yorkers went without fresh dairy until it was invented.
The food laws are weird, but they reflect the attitude of the time: science conquering all, solving problems that made city life so unhealthy. But it’s not exactly the key to the Illuminatus.
It may not be the pasteurization of commercial milk, but the homogenization which causes problems. This is done to mask the fact that a good proportion of the cream is taken out of whole milk before it is packaged and sold. Homogenization is accomplished my forcing the milk through a fine mesh which breaks up the whole components of the milk into more of a slurry- hence what remains of the cream will not separate. We have purchased non-homogenized milk before, but it is quite difficult to get except from a few small farms.
Pasteurisation has been around for much longer than artificial growth hormones or antibiotics.
Pasteuerisation means the milk will not go sour for several days or even longer if refrigerated properly.
Clearly, pasteurized milk is extremely inferior to raw milk. Things like this are purely for the benefit of the middle men and large-scale producers, NOT the end consumer. For example, in NZ they now sell IRRADIATED Australian mangoes in the shops, because there is a fear of fruit fly entering NZ along with the imported mangoes. Irradiating mangoes is clearly NOT for the benefit of the consumer.
In NZ, the criminalisation of the sale of non-pasteurised dairy products (including cheese) is justified on the basis of the danger posed by bovine TB. Well, my mother grew up on a small dairy farm in NZ, which my uncle ran later on. They all drank raw milk and no one got ill from it. What killed my uncle were the pesticides he had used, which destroyed his kidneys.
In Japan, it’s much worse than NZ (though better than the US). All “normal” milk in the supermarket is ultra-heat treated to 130 degrees C. This stuff tastes like sh_t. It is clearly not healthy. Every primary school child is given a bottle of it with their lunch every day. The only alternative is to pay about 30% more for “pasteurised” milk which is marketed as a premium product but only has a tiny market niche, maybe 3-5% max.This milk is treated to 65 degrees C. The standard milk has a labeled shelf life of TWO WEEKS. The 65-degree stuff has a five day shelf life.
We used to drink raw milk when I was a kid staying on my uncle’s farm. I surely look forward to the day I can milk my own cows and drink raw milk again.
If anybody is interested in trying raw milk and live in Melbourne Australia look at the farmers markets that rotate between Abbotsford, St Kilda and Port Melbourne. The difference really is amazing! The source of the milk is certified organic Jersey cows.
Louis Pasteur himself, the inventor of pasteurisation, said “I would rather a child ate bread which had been dragged through the dirt than grow up on an over sterile diet.”
–oli
Fred,
I agree with you about the homogenisation issue. When I was growing up in NZ, nealy all town people bought milk each night at their front gate in recycled glass bottles from a milk truck delivery (independent contractor). Only about 20% of people chose homogenised, and the other 80% bought it with the cream floating on top. (obviously not all the cream, though). Now, there are no milk home deliveries, only supermarkets and mainly non-recyclable plastic bottles and some cartons. Most milk purchased seems to be homogenised or non-fat milk.
When in NZ, I always buy an organic brand in a carton, non-homogenised. This product is incomparable to the standard stuff. Just imagine how good it would be raw! Once again, the homogenisation is for the benefit of the middle men (milk companies, supermarkets, packaging manufacturers) not the consumer.
In Japan, there are only a few brands of non-homogenised milk, which you can only buy at a few whole-food stores or order through a co-op.
Pasteuerisation means the milk will not go sour for several days or even longer if refrigerated properly.
Properly refrigerated raw milk doesn’t go sour for at least that long either, and when it does sour, it’s still safe and palatable (for cooking, for instance, or as “clabber”, which my dad grew up eating), as opposed to pasteurized milk which is just rotten at that point.
Sounds great except that the maximum longevity (most centenarians) populations – martime Greece, Okinawa – consume little or no dairy products of any sort. Before the oceans were full of mercury, fish and olives were much better sources of fat and protein. Cows are neat because they turn grass into meat, milk, and leather, but I would not get too excited about the health benefits of a diet high in dairy.
Another place to get raw milk in Australia is from certain health food shops where it’s sold as a skin beauty product (cough, cough)…in convenient, large, plastic…um…milk bottles.
“Pasteurization was developed to make food safe for long term storage so that it can get to the cityfolk without killing them. Generations of New Yorkers went without fresh dairy until it was invented.”
Bingo. If you are putting a nice medium for bacterial growth — essentially a big tub of sugar — on a train to ship across a hot desert, you’re just asking for Polio.
Kevin is confusing some things: Pasteurization is good if you are a big agro-shipper of milk. If you’re a local organic farmer, its silly and unecessary, probably doing more harm than good.
If you’re a dude in NY who gets only milk from the store and dont have your polio shot, drinking raw milk is a serious life-threatening gamble. Drinking sterilized milk is also bad for you, but probably LESS BAD THAN POLIO.
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In your local case as a farmer with nice clean cows or goats — you dont need pasteurization. but i’ll betcha you also have all your shots.
The danger comes from people thinking that because *THEY* dont need pasteurization because they have a clean, wholesome source of milk (true) that therefore milk doesnt really grow bacteria, some of which can be deadly (false). This kind of thinking is a luxury of the already immunized.
Polio *DEVASTATED* families, and people’s lives. the better response would be to give people clean milk – but instead, we got agro-bullshit pasteurized milk. This was not optimal, but was an improvement.
I’m scared by the Organic Farmers that i meet who think ALL science is evil. the alternatives can be wonderful, or they can be bats crazy. Do you really want to know what some witchdoctors will prescribe if you have tomato blight? Not compost tea, i’ll tell you.
The scientific method can be used appropriately. Its the SYSTEM that twists science to evil ends that is the real enemy.
Pasteurization is not in itself evil — its just unecessary (or even harmful) in YOUR situation at Farmlet.
If you have access to raw milk, its a damn fine idea. Far better for you.
If you’re some dude in the city getting milk from a far-off agrobusiness, that has been sitting in baking hot train cars for days, be warned: Polio was not a myth, made up by the man to keep you down. It was brutal.
A hot batch of milk is essentially a petri dish. This can be no big deal, or a very big deal. Even for local producers, cleanliness is very important.
W
The article http://www.theecologist.org/archive_detail.asp?content_id=278 mentions the polio/milk link could have been due to the Lead arsenate that was used as a cattle dip or the formaldehyde that was added to milk to prolong its ‘shelf life’. If you can supply links to any recent raw milk related polio outbreaks I would be very interested. I should add that I aware of the recent San Fransisco incident.
I have done a lot of research on Polio recently due to the rhetoric that my wife and I have been subjected too. We have chosen not to vaccinate our 5 1/2 month old daughter.
I never drink milk. It’s a byproduct of the meat industry. Calcium can be had from numerous sources other than milk. Milk contains all the hormones, antibiotics pesticides and vCJD particles that your body craves (if you wanna kill yourself). I have not drunk that crap for 20 years with no ill effect.
So, if you wanna buy into the BS propaganda that the dairy industry pushes on you …. go ahead, drink puss filled animal secretions…
GOT PUSS/MILK?
Many people who are supposedly lactose intolerant can consume and digest raw milk and cheese without the trouble they experience when consuming pasteurized milk products. I’m one of those people who had problems with allergies when I was a kid. When I stopped consuming dairy products, my allergies went away. Then I recently learned about the problems with industrial milk, so I tried drinking raw milk for a couple weeks, which I can thankfully buy in my state. Sure enough, I can drink raw milk with no problems.
A friend’s wife recently related a similar story. When she lived in California, she discovered that she was “lactose intolerant”, so she stopped consuming dairy. She and her husband moved to France five years ago. She started eating French cheese and discovered that she could digest it without the previous problems she experienced. It turns out that most French cheeses are unpasteurized. The European Union apparently recently was pedaling mandatory pasteurization. The French were up in arms about it and the EU dropped the issue.
One reason that people have trouble digesting milk is that pasteurization destroys the enzymes in the milk, including lactase, which helps digest the lactose contained in milk.
Despite the title’s ridiculous claim that its story is untold (the book’s existence disproves this), I highly recommend reading “The Untold Story of Milk: Green Pastures, Contented Cows and Raw Dairy Products” http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FUntold-Story-Milk-Pastures-Contented%2Fdp%2F0967089743%2Fsr%3D8-1%2Fqid%3D1171024781%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks&tag=cryptogoncom-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325 It gives a great overview of the sordid history behind mandatory pasteurization in the USA, detailing the political shenanigans employed and propaganda campaigns waged to destroy the availability of certified raw milk.
Robert,
Thanks so much for that information, and for the book reference. Schmid’s book deserves a full post to make sure people see it. It looks excellent!
Our source for raw milk dried off her cow lately. I’ve gone back to using small amounts of pasteurized/homogenized organic milk and my sinus congestion is coming back! It’s not even a week since stopping the raw milk, and this is what’s happening. Incredible!
Best,
Kevin
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If you live in Melbourne, you can get “Cleopatra’s Bath Milk and Body Cream” 😉 from Organic Wholefoods. There are 2 stores – one in Lygon Street Brunswick East, the other is in Smith Street Fitzroy. Think there’s one in Daylesford, too.