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“I have, based on my full security clearance and multiple polygraphs (lie detector tests), had the ability to be read into any program that I needed,” he said. “At one point in time, I was extremely highly cleared.”

During that time, Grusch claims the UAP Task Force was refused access to a broad crash retrieval program.

“These are retrieving non-human origin technical vehicles, call it space-craft if you will. Non-human exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or crashed,” he said.

Grusch told NewsNation that the U.S. is in possession of “quite a number” of these “non-human” vehicles.

He says he didn’t believe it at first.

“I thought it was totally nuts and I thought at first I was being deceived. People started to confide in me … approaching me. I had plenty of senior, former intelligence officers that came to me, many of which I knew almost my whole career, that confided in me that they were part of a program,” he said. “They named the program … I’d never heard of it. They told me, based on their oral testimony, and they provided me documents and other proof, that there was in fact a program that the UAP Task Force was not read into.”

Grusch, however, is hesitant to use the term “alien life.”

“I couch it as somebody who has studied physics, where you know, maybe they’re coming from a different physical dimension as described in quantum mechanics. We know there are extra dimensions due to high-energy particle collisions, etc., and there’s a theoretical framework to explain that,” he said.

In other words, Grusch believes humans are not alone. He says there is “potentially extra-terrestrial life” out there.

He’s never personally seen non-human intelligence but says he’s spoken to enough people directly involved in what he calls “the program,” that he’s convinced it’s real.

“I started out as a non-believer. I came to the problem as a hardcore physics guy … intel officer,” he said. So I have, you know, excuse my language high bull—- factor.” I was very methodical … interviewing people who didn’t know each other and making sure this wasn’t some kind of cover-up of some other program.”

Grusch says he pressed to gain direct access to the program, and that’s when the trouble started. He claims his investigation was stymied, and his requests for access were rebuffed.

“They shut the door in my face. They denied me access to these programs,” he said.

Soon after, he says he endured reprisals and retaliations from above. He reported that information to the intelligence community inspector general and eventually filed a whistleblower complaint.