Florida Woman Kills Son, Then Herself at Gun Range
April 8th, 2009I’ve lost track of all the recent bizarre shooting incidents. On the one hand, there’s a generalized crackup underway in the U.S. On the other hand, the regime is getting ready to try to get HR45 enacted.
My guess is that we haven’t seen anything yet.
Chillingly, hours before I read about this latest incident, I wrote a brief comment on the subreddit about my dealings with schizophrenics/alleged gang stalking victims due to my work on Cryptogon. This was in response to Jiverly Wong’s letter, where he lays out a standard paranoid schizophrenic/gang stalking scenario:
I’ve been contacted by many people who claim to be victims of gang stalking. When I’d tell them to do simple things like videotape their tormentors, get witnesses, etc. they’d never do it. There’s always some excuse about why nobody else can see it.
The people who have contacted me have been VERY religious (Christians). I have no idea if that is a component of this, or just a coincidence.
When they submit their “systems” to me, the level of detail and complexity, the fact that the people are alone, isolated, (except for the Internet) really looks like schizophrenia in my casual, untrained opinion.
However, when you look into this, holy crap, there’s an entire ecosystem of people who are existing in a living hell because of this… Whatever it is.
And then there’s the one about the Kuykendalls, the Prices and the McKays, which is pretty weird. That’s a unique one, as far as I know.
From psychology classes that I took in high school and college, I knew what schizophrenia was, in theory. But I never had any interactions with schizophrenics until I started running Cryptogon. Unfortunately, the Internet makes life much worse for schizophrenics because confirmation of all of their paranoia is just a Google search away. Because I’ve looked at trauma induced mind control and ritual abuse before, Cryptogon sometimes winds up in the mix of deeply troubled people. I’ve been sent documents that are hundreds of pages in length. Patents. Poster size flow charts. Daily journals. The stuff I have been sent to support gang stalking scenarios has been clinically nuts. Having said that, I don’t rule out the possibility that some gang stalking is happening to people. Again, look at that one above about the Kuykendalls, et al. It’s not schizophrenia when multiple individuals are being harassed.
Initially, I confused the two worlds of run-of-the-mill schizophrenia/gang stalking and trauma induced mind control/ritual abuse. I thought that all of it was same thing, at first. It isn’t, and the fact that engineered mind control cases look a lot like schizophrenia isn’t a coincidence. While I’m pretty confident that gang stalking is mostly schizophrenia, there is also no doubt that trauma induced mind control and ritual abuse are producing a distinct category of victim.
In this latest tragedy, it looks like schizophrenia (notice her 65 journals) was to blame. I’m starting to wonder: Is something triggering these people en masse?
Maybe a grad student in psychology out there can tell us what the average rate of schizophrenic breakdowns involving firearms is vs. what we’re seeing now?
Via: Orlando Sentinel:
Newly released notes and audio recordings left behind by a woman who shot her son and then took her own life leave little doubt that she planned the attack.
In rambling messages to family, friends, police and the owners of Shoot Straight, the Casselberry gun range she chose for Sunday’s fatal shooting, Marie Moore said the murder-suicide was the only way to save her son Mitchell Moore, her family and the world from violence and eternal damnation.
God decreed it, she wrote in documents released Tuesday.
“I’m so sorry,” Marie Moore, 44, wrote in one note. “I had to send my son to heaven and myself to Hell.”
The shooting was captured by security video at the gun range. Marie Moore walked behind her son, put a revolver to the back of his head and fired a single shot. Then she put the pistol in her mouth and fired.
Mitchell Moore, 20, died at the scene. His mother died a short time later at Florida Hospital Altamonte.
“The act appeared to be deliberate,” Casselberry police Officer Jeffrey Shumway wrote in his report.
The revolver was rented from the shooting range, Casselberry police Deputy Chief Bill McNeil said.
There are restrictions about gun ownership in some cases of mental incompetence, but they do not bar a person from renting a gun at a shooting range, McNeil said.
Late Monday, family members found three notes and two audio tapes and turned them over to police, McNeil said. Each note was addressed to “King,” a nickname for her boyfriend. Two were signed “Failed Queen.”
In these documents, Marie Moore described long struggles over whether to kill herself, stays at mental hospitals and attempts to make sense of the messages she said she received from God.
During a 2003 suicide attempt, her son stopped her from killing herself, she said in one recording. She thought God punished her for her failure by making her the “antichrist,” and that she must die to save the world from violence.
“You have a gun, you can do it,” she said God told her.
A prior suicide attempt at a gun range ended with her being thrown out.
This time, Marie Moore concealed her plans so she wouldn’t be hospitalized, she said in the recordings.
Why God chose Marie Moore for this fate made little sense to her.
“I don’t know how all this happened. It’s not in the Bible,” she said.
She wrote that she signed over the title to her truck, and left behind $7,900 cash and a check.
“I’m sorry King thats all thats left,” she wrote in one note.
Her jewelry would go to her boyfriend and others, she said in the recordings. She also left 65 journals explaining her ordeal.
“I’m a good person. But the Devil and God turned me into the worst person in the world. I’m so ashamed. And I’m so afraid,” she said. “And I’ll pay forever and ever.”
Be careful not to confuse schizophrenia with a temporary psychotic break. Instantaneously, they look the same. You need observation over time to separate the two.
I think one facet to these incidents is the fundamentalist religious component that tends to get under rated for political correctness reasons. These folks think the end times are upon us, fueled by what they read on the internet. Death becomes a natural progression. Why wait for the end times? Asshat pastors reinforce these ideas. Folks who already very impressionable easily slide over the line of accepted societal behavior. Even normally benign folks can then become dangerous. It’s sad that folks who are just marginal,normally, slip over the edge with a little push from some psychopath.
Here’s an entirely unsubstantiated idea with no evidence to back it up, that reads like Tinfoil 101:
What if someone found a way to extrapolate the normal trigger mechanisms used in trauma induced mind control/ritual abuse and apply it more broadly to people already exhibiting similar precursor behavior, paranoid schizophrenics in this case? Like the neural equivalent of an Microsoft RPC vulnerability, something you could use against multiple targets indiscriminately, preferably using mass-media communications for ease of propogation. It wouldn’t have to be fast-acting, or even extremely effective. If you could suggest something well enough that, say, 0.01% of people suffering from schizophrenia actually pull the trigger on a gun, you might see something like what’s been going on.
On the other hand, a bad economy, lack of social support, a society that pushes people further apart and enhances loneliness and discourages close personal contact, lousy addictive unhealthy food, chemical contamination and the stress of living in a fucked-up town/suburb/city, state, nation and world may be entirely enough to unbalance people in this manner.
The deaths of three cops here in Pittsburgh showed that the person receiving the 911 call at the emergency center did not reveal to police that there were guns involved. Cripe. The cops walking onto that scene, and for lack of better terminology were sitting ducks at the target range.
@Thucydides – What if someone found a way to extrapolate the normal trigger mechanisms used in trauma induced mind control/ritual abuse and apply it more broadly to people already exhibiting similar precursor behavior, paranoid schizophrenics in this case? Like the neural equivalent of an Microsoft RPC vulnerability, something you could use against multiple targets indiscriminately, preferably using mass-media communications for ease of propogation. It wouldn?t have to be fast-acting, or even extremely effective. If you could suggest something well enough that, say, 0.01% of people suffering from schizophrenia actually pull the trigger on a gun, you might see something like what?s been going on.”
I call all that you’ve described the TV and Talk Radio, eg. Rush Limabaugh.
The greatest brainwashing, fear instilling, peace disturbing, alienating phenomenons invented since beer, or sliced bread. The TV is THE support “group” for many an American. A thing to stare at, a thing that doesn’t know who you are. A thing that grinds you down if you don’t call in to buy the latest and greatest gizmo being sold. And all the while pushing drugs from big pharma, and or whatever the latest and greatest political agenda is. Obama is A fucking SOCIALIST. AS if anyone knows what that means in TV America. Oh cripe.
I think that if the TV was OFF in AMerica for a month due to WHATEVER it would be the best thing that could ever happen to the US of A. People would go bonkers with boredom. Walk outside and enjoy the daylight. Maybe find a way to get busy outside the drone of the big box. Talk to a neighbor, get some sunshine on their skin.
Of course, this goes full circle. With the TV off for a couple of weeks who knows how many people would just utterly lose it?
@Eileen you hit the jackpot, you got it exactly, people in our times now watch too much tv and they try to escape their boring reality. Not many people I know could survive without tv in the states, its pure insanity. There is talkshows that make fun of people’s lives, and reality tv shows that make people to crazy and insane things, its really sick. All I watch on tv lately is the news, there is more bad news than ever because the world is better connected with the internet. I am sure all the bad news is counter productive, it is downright scary, the past week there has been shootings daily televised on tv with great detail. There has always been shootings daily but never with the amount of news coverage there is now. I honestly would love to see what happens if tv gets blacked out for a month, because people may start communicating better and get news from word of mouth again. All the bad news is unbearable to people that have lost so much in this recession and is causing great depression. The depression medication commercials and enhancement commercials are on tv more than ever, I’ve seen more things about weight loss, these things make people depressed too. Our country is far over medicated and very delusional. Kids rather be playing video games alone than building a fort, riding a bike, playing outside and having good old fashioned fun, most of us adults have forgot how to have fun anymore. One thing I have noticed too is I see more people smoking, and at bars all over the country than ever. Why are they blowing there cash when they should be saving? People are polluting their minds with bullshit, drugs, alcohol, nicotine, bad news and endless shit ;\