Rumsfeld Stripped of Immunity in Case Involving Torture of U.S. Citizens
September 21st, 2011Via: USC – Neon Tommy:
Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was stripped of immunity in a case involving the torture of two United States citizens.
Two FBI informants, Donald Vance and Nathan Ertel, were detained and tortured by United States military personnel in Iraq in 2006. They filed suit against Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld for violations of their constitutional rights. The Judicial View states:
“Plaintiffs seek damages from Secretary Rumsfeld and others for their roles in creating and carrying out policies that caused plaintiffs’ alleged torture. Plaintiffs also bring a claim against the United States under the Administrative Procedure Act to recover personal property that was seized when they were detained.”
Rumsfeld and the United States government moved to dismiss the charges, and were denied. The plaintiffs relayed “in sufficient detail facts supporting Secretary Rumsfeld’s personal responsibility for the alleged torture.”
Be fun to see how long this judge lives, or how large his bank account gets…
I admit I have premature liberty tree wood right now.
Just this morning I watched the FBI shoot fire into the Branch Davidians’ houses and church. Ruined my mood for the whole day. I want that blind whore to administer some justice. I am so effing sick of it.
I’ll be watching this one very closely.
My patience for shenanigans is at an all time low.
Just another round of Kukla, Fran & Ollie (absurd puppet theater) to keep those who don’t yet grok the media’s real game busy.
And just “what is the true purpose of the media” you inquire of the arrogant prick not afraid to lay down such pointy opinions?
To keep the human mind corralled. By distraction. By subterfuge. With anger. With pleasure. Through the eyes. Through the ears. Using information. Using knowledge. Cast in tried and true memetic forms that support the larger mission.
Using whatever is required to keep the Great Hologram puffing steam and intoning its imperious songs to the mass mind.
It doesn’t have to suck everyone in. So long as it works on a significant majority, the rest can be managed via perception management, aka social conditioning.
It still kicks my arse how effectively the word “conspiracy” has been relegated to the semantic dungheap in the last decade.
Conspiracy is the SINGLE most common form of organization and planning in politics, economic and foreign policy and every criminal endeavor right, wrong or otherwise.
Yet we are told to believe — over and over and over — that conspiracy is the exception, rather than the rule.
That the near-infinite lexicon of lessons handed down down to us in *recorded* history have been rendered null and void.
This may sound less than compassionate, but I’ve reached the point in the last few years where I’m no longer concerned about how many millions or billions perish — so long as the choice to follow the Piper over the cliff was entirely voluntary.
In the end, everyone has to own the results of their choices. And their choosing to swallow whole a set of decisions tailor-made for mass consumption and broadcast far and wide doesn’t exactly inspire compassion.
Especially as they damn me for my ability to study my own way out of the wet paper sack that is most of “modern” thought.
C’est la vie.
@Miraculix
Well said.
And more importantly, well thought.
Not everybody is going to shake off the torpor, but not everybody needs too. Probably best for them if they do, but as a matter of policy I generally only kick the sleeping dogs I need for the task at hand.
How many dogs will it take to send some corrupt politicians and their big money backers “to ground”?
That remains to be seen.
@ Miraculix
Either those things you do find resonance in the surrounding population (that is the whole planet), or you have no future. What the heck do you expect to do when the place has been sterilized & desertified and one of the latest generation of killer drones comes to smash your well-defended biobubble (so that the world gets to be a beautiful place once again) ? Sure you’ll be spiritually inclined to face death.
@ Miraculix
Thank you. Even if someone doesn’t “act” on this knowledge, seeing the world as it is provides the only hope for the future. If a small band of conspirators can control the world, how can we be sure that a minority of the population who is aware can’t turn that around.
Awareness of the game may not change anything by itself, but there’s no chance of a way out without awareness.
@ prov6yahoo
Two trillion can buy a lot of judges.
@Miraculix.
I love that you said “In the end, everyone has to own the results of their choices.” Of all that you wrote, that is ONE THING I KNOW IS TRUE.
Mr. Donald will NOT live out his retirement years in splendor being fed grapes while lying on a day couch. Mr. Donald has a house in New Mexico, one of the most beautiful places in the U.S., stalked by antiwar activists. I saw this happening 2 years ago and found it then and now, quite disturbingbly pleasurable.
I don’t take joy in Mr. Rumsfeld’s dilemna. I believe that he, like the rest of us, chose before he was born what role he (we) were going to play in this lifetime. Yup, some people have weirder soul roles to work out than others.
So when I see Donald might find some pain coming his way, well, I think he asked for it. Not consciously, of course.
Wishing pain to Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush, Rice, and the rest of that gang that got my goat so badly almost sent me to a hospital. Now, I pray for them. I know that they will hang by the nooses they created for themselves. I may not see it, but they will hang by their own actions.
And I don’t care if the “media” covers their demise. The only media I care about is the local newspaper, and sometimes the digital (free) weather channel.
Such a joy and less expense to have freedom from hearing the talking heads.