Former Forbes Magazine Asia Pacific Bureau Chief, Claiming to Represent Asian Secret Society, Issues Death Threats to Western Elite on Live Radio Show
July 14th, 2007This is easily the most far out thing that I’ve read in a VERY long time. It’s also the weirdest story I’ve posted in over five years of running Cryptogon.
While it’s worth reading for the entertainment value alone (ninjas), if there’s even a 1% chance that this guy is for real… Well, it’s an interesting read to say the least.
I know that some of you will have a strong urge to say that this is bullshit, but I don’t think I’m going to allow those comments. Why? Because I already understand that perspective. Here, I’ll say it for you now:
“This story is bullshit.”
Happy?
Now, I’m far more interested in reading comments from people who think that this might be real. I’m especially interested in hearing from people who are living in Japan, Taiwan and China. People who might actually know something about this. Try to convince us that this is real.
Via: Benjamin Fulford on Jeff Rense:
We have someone close to each of you. You can be turned into dead meat in a matter of hours. I am not bluffing.
And I am hoping it doesn’t come to that. I am a decent human being. I am a journalist. I do not want any death. Not one.
But if it comes to it, they will all be slaughtered. They will be hunted down like beasts. Every one of them will be killed. Until they agree to the terms I mentioned before.
Related: The Full Three Hour Show as MP3
Related: Chinese Secret Society Challenges Illuminati
Yeah, I saw this the other day doing research on a depopulation article…man, no idea what to think of it, but certainly thought provoking
Bull or not this phrase sums it up:
“So I think what they try to do is they try to put some really wacky ideas [out there] and pack them all together with the real stuff, to make people not believe it.”
To Victor,
This is exactly what was done with the National Enquirer, started with the financial support of the CIA by one of their psychological warfare experts named Pope. By mixing the UFO phenomenom(a true phenomenon, whatever it is,other dimensional or extraterrestrial, having been chased and even fired upon by the US military on numerous occasions at several nuclear facilities etc.) in with nutty patently false stories, the intelligence agencies knew due to their massive investment of “our” money in psychological warfare/mind control due to MKULTRA etc., that the public would come to discredit the entire subject matter for fear of ridicule and lose all interest in the subject – – which has happpened completely – – try and discuss “UFOs” with a “normal” person and see how they look at you like you’re a nut and start laughing about “little green men” . . . .
As to whether this story is true, it could be given much of what is said in the interview otherwise is dead on factually true (but again, a psychological warfare technique also mixes the truth with . . . ), to anyone with half a brain left it is abundantly clear that we are short coming on the economic collapse of the USA and mercenaries on the streets (see Katrina and the new SS ala Bwter etc.), with an acknowledged worthless dollar and many other factors that point to some total collapse scenario then resulting in a complete and total fascist takeover of the USA orchestrated by these monied powers – – why wouldn’t the rest of the (sane) world be extremely concerned about this even if the average Amerikan is clueless?
– – What was stated about Tesla and free electricity being suppressed was dead on (his Niagra Falls turbines at Niagra Falls still power much of NY etc.) and, obviously, the hiding of the Rockefeller trillions in “Foundations” (always claiming Bill Gates is the “world’s wealthiest man” which is a crok . . . ).
The fact that the world is run by evil nut jobs should be evident to even the most casual unbiased observer these days . . . Cheney doesn’t even try and pretend otherwise (the Dr. Evil expression on his face and telling Senators to F themselves etc. – – he is a caricature in an increasingly cartoon-like “reality”), so given that we have a situation with Cheney as the “power” figure in the USA, at this point, we have a live action “reality” cartoon at work so why not an army of Ninjas coming over the walls, it fits with every other nutty thing that is going on that most people totally ignore as they watch tv and hava a beer . . . .
Look at the first couple articles on this Forbes guy’s site:
http://benjaminfulford.com/indexEnglish.html
Sounds like a lunatic to me.
i have read bits and pieces of this via various sources over the past several years, but nothing quite as comprehensive as fulford’s account… my professional skill happens to be pattern recognition and, in attempting to assemble a coherent big picture of the realities taking place behind the global curtain, i can validate, albeit intuitively, his scenario… i sense that we are close to a tipping point of some sort… all of my nerve endings and cilia are in hyper-alert mode… whatever form the denouement takes, i trust it will propel humanity in a much more positive direction…
wow. when Kevin says “this is the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen” that’s really saying something.
“However, with the debacle in Iraq, the secret government of the West changed to a new plan that is a world government based on the EU.”
My source (Daniel chapter 7) confirms this statement. The Illuminati will somehow dodge this bullet. It’s been foretold.
Conspiracy Planet is carrying the story also at
Chinese Secret Society Challenges Illuminati by HENRY MAKOW PhD.
As society unravels, there are going to be more and more people lke this guy who manage to carve out a social niche by saying something like:
“I do believe we now have a real chance to end the New World Order and start the New Age. The New Age would be one where war, poverty and environmental destruction would only be found in the history books.”
Monitoring the alt-media, it seems each of these Fulford “types” has to come up with a different spin to distinguish themselves from all the ohter folks making similar claims. This guy’s spin is the NWO thing, albeit a bit more complex than most others who take a similar spin on their claim that “things are going to be great if you listen to me.”
It’s kind of like the 9/11 truth clusterfuck. Among the handfull of legitimate, professional type researchers there are 1,001 Alex Jones wannabes who, in order to carve out their own niche/turf, have to develop a unique spin on things.
It gave me a chill when Fulford said:
“I am telling the Rockefellers right now, they can think of me as the ghost of G.T. Fulford, come back over a century – from four generations – to get justice.”
I truly hope he is real, and I think he is.
The information meshes with and rounds out the bits and pieces I have been assembling in my mind over the last several years.
It may be that we just heard the voice of “God”, whatever that may be for each of us.
The only thing that makes me suspicious of the story is the association with the “Save the Males” guy. I trust Alex Jones more than him.
Almost too good to be true. I wouldn’t hold my breath for these boys, but one can only hope such a group really exists to fight for the masses. Heck, if i had 100k assassins…
I think the subtle hint here is we have to start talking to each other and form our own society and fight for what is good. All our media these days have these images. Sad as it is, even the new harry potter movie promotes forming an army to fight evil. Taking responsibility to ensure our liberty. Think it’s past time?
I’ve listened to the interview twice; very clear that this guy believes what he’s saying, particularly in light of the claim that his GGfather was assassinated by the Rockefellers when he tried to fund Tesla and create universal free energy.
Not sure that I like the fact that this could turn into a battle of 2 secret societies; society will basically be left in the same position regardless of who wins. This chinese society has all of the makings of the early Cosa Nostra – it’s all supposed to benefit the little guy, but it becomes corrupted and the little guy still gets screwed. However, given that society writ large has no plan to stop the coming genocide, they are probably the best chance we’ve got right now.
Either way, American society is about to come apart, so folks like me are in for a rough ride regardless. Nature does have a way of ridding itself of parasites; looks like 2 parasites could go down at once.
//MOD This guy has been visiting Cryptogon from Japan for a long time. Thanks, Kevin
The entertainment value is high, regardless of whether this is a florid schizophrenic episode, a psy-op to subvert (or titliiate) the tinfoil community (still picking the Reynolds Wrap from my teeth after reading through Fulford’s site), or just an inspired goof.
Anyway, I’ve lived in Japan for 13 years and I would say Fulford’s credibility is near zero on his refs to ninjas and yakuza. Don’t know much about Chinese secret societies but claims of 100,000 professional assassins smacks of Sax Rohmer. Who are these assassins? Who’s paying them? Who are their presumably 100,000+ victims? And where does the nefandous Dr Fu Manchu feature in this Yellow Peril scenario?
Bringing in Nikolai Tesla angle was a nice touch though. I haven’t heard the MP3s yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some spooky theremin playing beofre the commercial breaks.
Good stuff!
As fascinating as I find Mr. Fulford’s story, the thing he said that most stretched my belief was that he was offered the position of Finance Minister for Japan. I simply cannot imagine that a foreigner will ever, *ever* hold a ministerial position in Japan.
I only lived in Japan for 6 years, not 20, but that’s way harder for me to get my head around than the ninjas or the Illuminati.
I wonder if he’s got a (fiction) book planned.
To Nigel:
I didn’t know what to make of that either. There have been more western facing popping up in japanese management circles of late (the past few years), but still….finance minister?
also, i wish these kooky hosts would let their interviewees speak with less interruption. i know what rense thinks, rense knows what rense thinks, wouldn’t we rather hear more from his guest fulford?
No one has mentioned it, so I will: A point of interest in Fulford’s account is the history of the SARS outbreak, in China and OUTSIDE of China. This part of his story at least should be possible to check. None of us will be surprised if it is true, but IS it true?
I liked the “Snatch the Eye out of the Pyramid idea” but does that mean that we replace the New World Order with the Crazy 88 to rule over us?
And just because there are 10,000 Listed Illuminated members doesn’t mean they don’t have 100+ thousand assassins on their payroll.
This would make an excellent movie!
Sonny Chiba needs to be involved 🙂
No foreigner would put in a ministerial position. That would be like have some Mao-suited goon being proclaimed as Fed chairman. Wait… come to think of it.
Still, I think he had too many mercury laden pieces of sushi. To top it all off why would a “secret” society, purportedly in negotiations, go about announcing this deal to the public? Thats just too bizarre even for someone like me who used to live there.
I would disagree with writer Doug(#14) that B. Fulford has close to zero credibility concerning yakusa. His insights into organized crime seem to be the basis of his credibility. Certainly he has no “official media” credibility on that issue; the media in Japan is extremely well controlled. Fulford has a habit of writing about people who mysteriously die before upcoming testimonies; so there is clearly an interest within Japan of attacking his credibility.
For a while Richard Koshimizu was casting some suspicion on Fulford as being a potential agent of Moon interests. Seems that the publisher of one of Fulford’s books is Moon related. However, this may just be a result of Fulford’s official media blackball requiring him to seek alternative publication routes.
Regarding Fulford’s current Chinese claims, sorry I can’t shed any light on those; they are certainly fantastic, but they may be credible also, who knows.
Yeah, this story about about a ninja offering him Freemason membership or he would be killed, then the Chinese secret society galloping to his rescue by offering him protection sends off alarm bells in my head big time. It sounds like something right out of a hollywood fairy tale, and it’s not very credible. First of all, why would the Chinese secret society have a personal interest in him in the first place? But on the other hand, maybe that is exactly what happened, except the “ninja” and Chinese secret society was probably an agents feeding him bullshit, knowing full well he would talk about it and make himself look foolish. That said, much of what he says, particularly the control of society by Rockefeller and Rothschild families is plausible and worth listening to. Like always, you have to retain critical thinking when reading these things.
Just to clarify what I meant by challenging Fulford’s credibility on yakuza and ninjas, I wasn’t talking about his creds within the official media, just in the realm of plain old reality.If anything, my vote goes to parody on this one, like when a physicist publishes a paper full of bullshit science in a postmodernist journal in order to demonstrate the gullibility and scientific ignaorance of Derridean philosophers.Psychotic episode runs second, followed by psy-op bringing up the rear.As for true account? Not likely.
Illuminati response to Yakuza:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6900156.stm
Look, the thing about Heizo Takenaka offering him the Finance Minister’s job is just way over the top. The ninja thing is more a matter of taste. As for the Yakuza, well, he obviously knows quite a bit about the shady side of Japanese society. You cannot deny that there is often a huge gulf between superficial appearances and actual power relationships in Japan. It’s a fact. Organised crime and the “legitimate” power centres are intimately intertwined at every level.
The only other thing I would say at this stage is that as someone who has lived in japan on and off for 20 years, and who speaks and reads japanese, this guy said something early on that definitely rang a bell. One of the things never spoken in public but often in private by many top business people is that in the next couple of decades they expect china to break up into several smaller entities. maybe a loose conferederation like the EU.
as for the rockafella/rothschild thing, i dunno. until 15 years ago, japanese business was dominated by a few zaibatsu which have their origins in the late edo and early meiji eras. their power seems to have waned now, but it is hard to get a handle on it unless you fish around in the seedier parts of the weekly japanese press. maybe there is a connection with the r-r clans.
I’ve read plenty on the Illuminati for about the past 15 years; there is a goldmine of material out there as well as authors, speakers, researchers, victims and other people who have been involved in one way or another in trying to bring the truth to the oblivious sleeping masses.
I have some investigator, journalist, former military, and UFO researcher friends who have had bizarre experiences and been threatened to keep their mouths shut, and I have listened to many Coast to Coast radio shows that have featured guests in key positions taking serious risks to expose this incredible secret.
Even if one could absorb the limitless bounty of information on the subject and still have doubts, all he would have to do is stand back and take an objective look at the world around him.
You can theorize and rationalize from here to kingdom come that it is ok or normal for the White House to whittle away our Bill of Rights, Constitution, and Habeus Corpus – or that the House and Senate and Supreme Court are filled with reasonable people who happen to agree with what clearly is the closest thing to a King or dictator’s demands as we’ve ever had in the U.S. – and not stop them! (Yet impeach another president over his personal sex exploits). Why is that? Doesn’t that send up the red flags? Have you not studied history and seen this pattern with Hitler, and others?
Everything I warned the people around me about over the years is coming to pass: That the government and banks and corporations would take more and more of our money under false pretenses (trillions of our dollars for a Wag-the-Dog war, gouging of gasoline prices with record profits for oil company execs, Mafia style interest rates for the loan-sharking credit card companies – i.e. world banks); all kinds of crime, disasters, diseases and acts of terror that would precipitate a push for gun control, raised taxes, eradication of our Constitutional rights, microchipping, stricter identification laws (for example, not being able to go into Canada without the rigamarole and expense of obtaining a passport); rigged electronic voting machines …. the signs were in place long before any implementation.
I watched a documentary called America Under Seige years ago, which showed how the New World Order planned to bring in foreign armies to round us up; it showed veritable concentration camp type fences in National Parks – along with supplies of armed tanks, as well as carved stone signs that say something like Global World Park (instead of Yellowstone, for example). It told about how Fema would be the department to take charge of this.
A friend told me that a man named (let’s just say J.F.) had called him, frantic and begging him to take over his research on a suspicious plane crash (both were very knowledgeable about and working to educate the public about the UFO cover-up. He confided “They’re closing in on me, it won’t be much longer now”. Then, maybe two weeks later, it was in the news that J.F. “broke into a politician’s house to put a cancer causing substance in his toothpaste tube” (yeah, that makes sense … I know if I wanted to kill someone I would break into his home and try and shove a radioactive substance into a toothpaste tube!). They locked him up and threw away the key. Not only could my friend not reach him at a prison, but he wasn’t allowed to know who the guy’s attorney was or contact him in any way. He was never heard from again.
About a month or so before 911 I said “I just have this uneasy feeling that the Illuminati are going to do something big. They have so many of their fingers in key positions now, not to mention mega corporations and the big banks holding most of the cards – I think they are going to cause something to happen that will have people begging to have our rights taken away.”
911 happened, with many valid questions having been raised about the inconsistencies. Next, tighter restrictions everywhere, the “Patriot” Act, torture, spying on the public at large (via telecommunications companies for one), Presidential carte blanche to seize people and deny them hearings or trials – not to mention all the vetoing and Constitutional tampering and/or nose-thumbing. Let’s not forget how poor we are becoming while this guy calls for trillions of dollars to fund a war that anyone with half a brain can see is a sham. Let’s call it what it is: invasion. Invasion not much different than the kind perpetrated by Hitler, Napoleon or Attila the Hun. Those people in Iraq – they are regular people much like you and me – they are not the Taliban. GW could have plucked up Bin Laden as easy as plucking a daisy with the technology and intelligence available to our military. But did we get Bin Laden and his crew? Hell no, but thousands of Iraqi civilians and our kids in fatigues have died already! This was about corporations folks. All of our wars have been about corporations – they just don’t tell you about that in the history books. Money, power and control are the ultimate pot of gold at the end of the Illuminati’s long war against, and machinations to control, humanity. They are so close to having it all that they don’t even try so hard to hide it anymore. George Jr. never would have lasted in office if this was the 60’s. But they have enough of their flunkies in political, lawmaking, banking, and corporate places now – that they can and are getting away with murder.
This Illuminati thing (or whatever the global power elite calls themselves) is, and has been for some time, so in-your-face that I am amazed at our society for not seeing it. I worry that the public won’t open their eyes until their eyes are looking through the holes in barbed wire fences.
When I was young there were still some controls in place to prevent presidents and their underlings from having too much power or from destroying the Constitution. There were also safeguards in place for our food, for example. Did you know that Japan checks all beef for mad cow disease, but the U.S. doesn’t? And what’s with high fructose corn syrup being put in every processed food and drink that we consume! Did you know that companies are legally forbidden against putting their profits to humanitarian uses? They are required to make as much money as possible for the stockholders. Notice that our food quantities get smaller and the quality diminishes while the price gets higher and higher. And the pharmaceutical companies – selling us vital medicines that might cost three cents per pill to produce, yet cost $2.00 a pill to purchase.
I never thought I’d see the day where people can’t afford to get medical treatment or medicines; where utilities that used to be nominal costs (a few bucks a month for gas or electric) would cost an arm and a leg; where all of the social programs for the more unfortunate members of our society would be eliminated one by one; where social security would be phased out; where our taxes would be 30 percent of our paychecks; where education would cost as much as a house; where you would have to have at least two incomes just for basic survival; where there would be large amounts of homeless people on the streets and no suitable programs to help them; where our own military would be so poorly armed in war that some of them actually rebelled because they knew it would be suicide to follow orders.
Let’s not forget the outsourcing! Almost every product you buy was made overseas, especially in China or India. Many, many jobs have already gone (especially to India). I know, I’m one of the casualties. Even local news is beginning to be outsourced! Americans have been sold out by our own country. For those of you who have jobs, what are your raises like? Around here, if you even get a raise there is always a ceiling of about 2 or 3 percent. The companies are crying poverty, yet most of them are making out like bandits. Why bother to pay a hundred grand for college when someone in India or China will design the ads, answer the phones, do the tech work, manufacture the products, write the manuals, print the newspapers – even write the local news!!
We in the U.S. work more days and longer hours than most other countries. Our schools are failing our kids, as our test scores are next to last in math and science. Our dollar is dropping like a thermometer in January. We’ll be fighting immigrants for those Taco Bell jobs, or the elderly for grocery store greeter positions. I’m telling you, as if large corporations owning monopolies and oligopolies isn’t frightening enough, soon virtually every decent job that can be done by foreigners for pennies on the dollar will be done by them, not us. The point is, WE DON’T MATTER! We are expendible and irrelevent. We will end up as serfs if something isn’t done soon. If we don’t storm Washington and take back control of the government, break up the corporate chokehold and diminish their power, put limits on profits of necessities (especially food/medicine/utilities), disallow outsourcing, eliminate medical insurance companies and make health care free for everyone, outlaw lobbying and special interest connections, hold politicians accountable, impose standards on consumables industries, and renew and protect our Constitutional rights, – then we are screwed!
We haven’t had a run of bad luck; all of our major problems are resultant of the Illuminati’s organized efforts. They laugh at us, by the way, and refer to us (even in a document I read that they purportedly wrote long ago) as “cattle” and “sheep”, or “sheeple”. Sometimes it feels as if life is crazy, what with so many drug addicts and kids shooting up schools, for example. Yet, it isn’t random insanity – it is controlled chaos.
Speaking of drugs, there is a group of ex-Green Berets that got together in order to keep some of the excitement they craved in their lives after military retirement. They went to South America and ferreted out and mapped out all of the illegal drug manufacturing locations. They proudly presented their find to the FBI, who in turn gave the information to the CIA – who said thanks but no thanks. The ex-militaries were absolutely floored. They said “This information could have shut down most of the drugs for at least the next three years … and the CIA didn’t want it!”. (I heard this on the Coast to Coast A.M. radio show several years ago – it is a treasure trove of info if you really want answers to secrets).
The stories about the Illuminati get really dark if you delve. Some of it might depress you permanently. Somewhere in my mind I hoped the worst of the worst was false – until I came to know a man who had first hand knowledge. He never offered the information until one day when I started talking about the Reptilians. He turned ashen. He whispered “you know about them! Nobody knows that. I mean, I’ve met a few folks who can hold their own in a conversation about the New World Order or about the UFO cover up, but you’re the first person who has ever spoken about the Reptilians.” Then he told me a little bit about how he and his father were periodically taken to the underground prisons, where even children are tortured by these beings. It was obvious that he was telling me the truth – something he never volunteered, but which he reacted to with emotion when I spoke about it first. And no, he wasn’t a nutcase. He is sane in every way and perfectly intelligent and functioning. I only wished he were crazy because it put me into a terrible state of depression and fear. (Want more on this kind of stuff – google the Denver Airport – underground).
Observation and common sense will tell you that the Global Elite/New World Order/Illuminati organization is as real as a heart attack. Otherwise all of the insanity and the way the country is going down the tubes just adds up to freaky bad luck coincidence without rhyme or reason; that the majority of our leaders, lawmakers and law enforcers are daffy (instead of answering to a scary power group); that the hundreds or thousands of people who have spoken out/written books/documented meticulously this information, and of whom many are in highly respected roles and have risked their reputations and even their lives to put this out for us — are all liars or lunatics — and if you believe that, you have a lot more to lose than if you believe that our Constitution is safe and that we are fighting terrorists. NOT believing that the Illuminati exists may make you feel more secure about your normalcy and your standing in the community – but it sure won’t make the biggest threat in the world go away!
-K
ps I apologize for the length of this comment; I’ve still only scratched the bare surface though.