John Williams: Times That Try Our Souls

August 9th, 2010

This is a good piece and I’ve clipped some of the passages that I felt were the best. I’d recommend clicking through and reading the whole thing.

The advice given is in line with what you’ve been seeing on Cryptogon for years. With regard to the speculation about private property being outlawed: The federal government might try, but they would be dealing with running gun battles at that point. There are a lines in the sand that the government can’t cross, unless it wants open warfare with the states. Mass confiscation of private property would do it, so I doubt that the feds will go down that dead end path. See Nye County Sheriff Tony DeMeo on threatening BLM with armed responses to stop illegal BLM activities. If those types of incidents start to rise, watch out, the failed state reality show could be coming to a town near you.

Via: The Energy Report:

When Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke admits to seeing an “unusually uncertain” economy ahead, it’s pretty terrifying to imagine what he’s really thinking. What John Williams envisions—and he’s by no means looking to the far horizon—is a systemic collapse, a hyperinflationary great depression and the cessation of normal commerce.

I expect an accelerating pace of downturn in the next couple of months. The numbers will turn sharply worse. Consensus estimates are already moving in that direction and most everything will follow. Industrial production is still up but retail sales have been falling. Payroll numbers have been flat when you take out the effects of the census hiring. Those employment numbers will turn down in the next month or two, providing an important indicator of renewed economic contraction.

The popular press will describe it as a double dip, but we never had a recovery. Actually, this is just a very protracted, very deep downturn that has had a pattern of falling off a cliff, bottoming out, having a little bit of bump due to stimulus and then turning down again. Sort of shaped like the path of a novice skier going down a jump for the first time. Speeding sharply down the hill, he goes up in the air and starts spinning wildly as he tries to figure out which end is up with his skis. Then he takes a pretty bad tumble. We’re beginning to spin in the air.

Most of the growth we’d seen in the last decade prior to this downturn was due to debt expansion. The debt structures have pretty much been put through the wringer and consumers are not expanding credit, generally because it’s not available to them. Absent debt expansion and/or significant growth in income, no way can the consumer expand personal consumption. You have to address employment, quality of jobs.

The government is effectively bankrupt. Using GAAP accounting principles, the annual deficit is running in the range of $4 trillion to $5 trillion. That’s beyond containment. The government can’t cover it with taxes. They’d still be in deficit if they took 100% of personal income and corporate profits. They’d also still be in deficit if they cut every penny of government spending except for Social Security and Medicare. Washington lacks the will to slash its social programs severely, to change its approach to ever bigger government. The only option left going forward is for the government eventually to print the money for the obligations it cannot otherwise cover, which sets up a hyperinflation.

We’ve been talking about an economic recession, but we are headed for something far worse. I define a depression as a 10% peak-to-trough contraction in the economy. In terms of the broad economy, we’re not down 10% in GDP yet. So while we’re not formally in depression, we’re certainly seeing it in a number of indicators and I think we’ll be in a depression, with GDP down 10%, in the near future.

A contraction greater than 25% peak-to-trough puts you in a great depression. That is what I envision, but we’ll be taken there by hyperinflation and a resultant cessation of normal commerce.

My definition has been and will remain very simple. When the largest-denomination note in circulation—the $100 bill in the case of the U.S. dollar—has the same value as toilet paper, you have a hyperinflation. You saw that in the Weimar Republic. People papered their walls with money.

When people don’t have food, you end up in very dangerous circumstances.

I think a barter system is where it will go until the currency system is stabilized, but the currency system can’t stabilize until the government’s fiscal house is in order.

When hyperinflation starts to break, it can unfold in a matter of weeks, months. You’ll need to be able to handle things rapidly. Frankly I think the system will tend to break down. It’s not a happy circumstance. How will a small company get its goods to people? There might be blackouts. Who’s going to get the fuel to the power plants?

I think the odds are extremely high that we’ll see it break within the next year. I would put it six months to a year, outside. We’re getting extraordinary protestations from other central banks about the U.S. finances, its solvency, risk of the dollar. Before the current crisis you never would have heard any central banker making such comments. As this breaks, it’s going to be obvious that the U.S. is moving to debase its dollar. It’ll have no option to do otherwise. I would fully expect some foreign holders looking to dump the Treasuries. With the dollar plunging, the Treasury won’t be able to get the funding that it needs from a practical standpoint in the open markets.

The Fed will come in to salvage that situation, becoming the lender of last resort to the Treasury—literally monetizing the Treasury debt. The Fed might have a couple different ways to address the dollar situation, from raising interest rates to direct intervention, slapping on currency controls. I can’t tell you exactly how it’s going to go. But you’ll have an environment that’s effectively creating a perfect storm for the U.S. dollar. I hate to use the term but it’s a good one.

Heavy dollar selling will be exceptionally inflationary. Oil prices will spike in response to the weakness in the dollar. Oil is a primary commodity that drives consumer inflation; that’s how you can have inflation in a recession. The traditional wisdom is that strong demand against limited supply causes inflation, but you can also have inflation due to commodity price distortions, which is what we had back in ’73 and what we’ve seen over the last year or so.

Research Credit: pookie, tochigi

2 Responses to “John Williams: Times That Try Our Souls”

  1. tochigi says:

    as Kevin says, it is a good article. Mr. Williams cuts through the cr@p sludging up the economics world. he says it as he sees it. and it is a remarkably cryptogonian vista that he describes playing out. i would say he might be a touch on the early side with his predictions, but only a touch. he says the next year, i tend to see it being dragged out for three or so. a minor detail in the big picture.

    i also think hyper-inflation is on the cards. a lot of people get inflation and hyper-inflation confused or see them as the same phenomenon, just different by degree. not so. hyper-inflation is a completely separate beast. that’s why non-commodity deflation is likely to grind on until the big hyper-inflationary break. it is not a dichotomy as many try to argue. asset deflation/debt de-leveraging can happen directly prior to hyper-inflation, which is caused by a sudden collapse in credibility of the monetary authorities rather than a crisis of confidence in the currency. it is much deeper. a fiat currency is only able to function if the social conditions remain stable. hyper-inflation is a symptom of severe societal breakdown. starting to sound familiar?

  2. Zuma says:

    food and energy.

    The great plains states come to mind (amid a great many other things to be sure). Fargo, N.D. actually has a night life now. people are coming in (or back) compared to before. all up and down the bread basket (and where the oil is as well) things seem distinctly different than the coastal country.

    when things finally totally pop, between food and energy needs, food will stand out as the greater need. to some. and energy to others.

    human people need food more than anything, the other sort needs energy more than anything.

    …the 30 billion arms sale to the saudis looks like a cheap no-brainer investment for that other sort of people…

    when corporations are simultaneously assigned legal personhood and become the greater governmental instruments, it’s all over for human peoples.

    human life has become a liability in so many ways.

    soylent green, anyone?

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