Comments on: BUSH AND CHENEY BOTH CLAIM EXEMPTION FROM OVERSIGHT LAWS THAT APPLY TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH http://cryptogon.com/?p=921 news - analysis - conspiracies Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:25:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Alek Hidell http://cryptogon.com/?p=921&cpage=1#comment-9207 Alek Hidell Tue, 26 Jun 2007 03:44:52 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=921#comment-9207 @Tito Your wild speculations match my own. Even the Soviet Union held elections, the fake elections in North America are likely to continue even after the current nations are a memory. Likewise, agree the next spectacular false flag terror is likely to blame a domestic dissident "fifth column", perhaps supposedly funded and armed by an OPEC member state. In one fell swoop, a pretext to arrest the 9/11 truthers, shut down youtube, and grab more hydrocarbon reserves away from OPEC. @Tito
Your wild speculations match my own. Even the Soviet Union held elections, the fake elections in North America are likely to continue even after the current nations are a memory.

Likewise, agree the next spectacular false flag terror is likely to blame a domestic dissident “fifth column”, perhaps supposedly funded and armed by an OPEC member state. In one fell swoop, a pretext to arrest the 9/11 truthers, shut down youtube, and grab more hydrocarbon reserves away from OPEC.

]]> By: Tito http://cryptogon.com/?p=921&cpage=1#comment-9194 Tito Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:30:50 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=921#comment-9194 I don't see a cancelling of ellections happening. The elections are an important RITUAL if nothing else. They keep up the appearance of the democratic process. I'd much more expect to see Clinton or Gulliani get elected and continue the current administration's policies. A suspension of elections could serve as a flash point, why should the Powers That Be risk throwing the whole show away when they own both major political parties anyway? For God's sake people, do you really think that our current president is the evil mastermind behind the show? The show has been going on for long before he stepped on stage. I fully expect another "terrorist" attack, followed by another round of State security messures which a "reluctant" congress will pass to save us from whatever flavor of the month boogey men (I'm betting Constitutionalist 9/11 conspiracy types, think McVeigh with a Masters degree). Wild conjecture, sure, but while everyone else is playing, I might as well play too. I don’t see a cancelling of ellections happening. The elections are an important RITUAL if nothing else. They keep up the appearance of the democratic process. I’d much more expect to see Clinton or Gulliani get elected and continue the current administration’s policies.
A suspension of elections could serve as a flash point, why should the Powers That Be risk throwing the whole show away when they own both major political parties anyway?
For God’s sake people, do you really think that our current president is the evil mastermind behind the show? The show has been going on for long before he stepped on stage.
I fully expect another “terrorist” attack, followed by another round of State security messures which a “reluctant” congress will pass to save us from whatever flavor of the month boogey men (I’m betting Constitutionalist 9/11 conspiracy types, think McVeigh with a Masters degree).
Wild conjecture, sure, but while everyone else is playing, I might as well play too.

]]> By: hermesten http://cryptogon.com/?p=921&cpage=1#comment-9189 hermesten Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:55:21 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=921#comment-9189 "This could also be the reason Nancy Pelosi declared that impeachment is off the table–because when she met with Bush after becoming House Speaker..." Let me suggest another reason: the total surveillance state Kevin has chronicled on this site. The AT&T/NSA network, for instance, can't possibly be primarily a law enforcement tool. The people running the show are more concerned about corporate buyouts and political leverage than "terrorists." Most politicians are scum. It's not hard to imagine that this administration has collected plenty of damaging information on the people it needs to control; in fact, most of what has been revealed about these systems and the data they collect would seem to have little value or purpose beyond developing information useful for blackmail and control. “This could also be the reason Nancy Pelosi declared that impeachment is off the table–because when she met with Bush after becoming House Speaker…”

Let me suggest another reason: the total surveillance state Kevin has chronicled on this site. The AT&T/NSA network, for instance, can’t possibly be primarily a law enforcement tool. The people running the show are more concerned about corporate buyouts and political leverage than “terrorists.” Most politicians are scum. It’s not hard to imagine that this administration has collected plenty of damaging information on the people it needs to control; in fact, most of what has been revealed about these systems and the data they collect would seem to have little value or purpose beyond developing information useful for blackmail and control.

]]> By: Bush is the AntiChrist http://cryptogon.com/?p=921&cpage=1#comment-9182 Bush is the AntiChrist Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:36:13 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=921#comment-9182 snorky Said: "Bush, in case anyone missed it, said something like, 'A dictatorship wouldn't be so bad, just as long as I'm the dictator,' in 2000, no less!" Actually it was after his first 100 days in office, and what he said was "A dictatorship wouldn't be so bad, 'cos being a dictator would sure be alot easier". In addition to be one of the stupidest, most incompetent, and least artful liars we've ever had as president, Bush has also got to be one of the laziest. Even Mussolini never took off for months at a time to dick around, posing for photo ops on his private estate. But come 1/20/09, I doubt Bush will try to stick around. He will flee to the exile of his Rancho del Stroessner in the Paraguayan hinterlands, to live out his days off the million$ he's no doubt made all these years from his "blind trust" with the Carlyle Fund. http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1928928,00.html http://www.bushwatch.com/bushcarlyle.htm snorky Said:
“Bush, in case anyone missed it, said something like, ‘A dictatorship wouldn’t be so bad, just as long as I’m the dictator,’ in 2000, no less!”

Actually it was after his first 100 days in office, and what he said was “A dictatorship wouldn’t be so bad, ‘cos being a dictator would sure be alot easier”.

In addition to be one of the stupidest, most incompetent, and least artful liars we’ve ever had as president, Bush has also got to be one of the laziest. Even Mussolini never took off for months at a time to dick around, posing for photo ops on his private estate.

But come 1/20/09, I doubt Bush will try to stick around. He will flee to the exile of his Rancho del Stroessner in the Paraguayan hinterlands, to live out his days off the million$ he’s no doubt made all these years from his “blind trust” with the Carlyle Fund.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/inte.....28,00.html

http://www.bushwatch.com/bushcarlyle.htm

]]> By: snorky http://cryptogon.com/?p=921&cpage=1#comment-9172 snorky Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:47:55 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=921#comment-9172 Both Larry and Ozzy are right. Larry, for saying that in all likelihood elections will be cancelled. Bush, in case anyone missed it, said something like, "A dictatorship wouldn't be so bad, just as long as I'm the dictator," in 2000, no less! Ozzy is right too, because few among those with power will tolerate it. I mean the military won't, and they will strike up a coup as soon as they get their ducks in a row. This could also be the reason Nancy Pelosi declared that impeachment is off the table--because when she met with Bush after becoming House Speaker Bush may have told her that in no uncertain terms that if the House starts impeachment procedings, Bush will just dissolve Congress. Just my 2 cents. Both Larry and Ozzy are right. Larry, for saying that in all likelihood elections will be cancelled. Bush, in case anyone missed it, said something like, “A dictatorship wouldn’t be so bad, just as long as I’m the dictator,” in 2000, no less! Ozzy is right too, because few among those with power will tolerate it. I mean the military won’t, and they will strike up a coup as soon as they get their ducks in a row. This could also be the reason Nancy Pelosi declared that impeachment is off the table–because when she met with Bush after becoming House Speaker Bush may have told her that in no uncertain terms that if the House starts impeachment procedings, Bush will just dissolve Congress. Just my 2 cents.

]]> By: Mike Lorenz http://cryptogon.com/?p=921&cpage=1#comment-9171 Mike Lorenz Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:51:16 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=921#comment-9171 "This executive order was issued by the president, and he knows what his intentions were,” Fratto said. “He is in compliance with his executive order.” Also, we know the Bible is the inerrant word of God because the Bible says so. - Mike Lorenz “This executive order was issued by the president, and he knows what his intentions were,” Fratto said. “He is in compliance with his executive order.”

Also, we know the Bible is the inerrant word of God because the Bible says so.
– Mike Lorenz

]]> By: Ozzy "The Man" Diaz http://cryptogon.com/?p=921&cpage=1#comment-9157 Ozzy "The Man" Diaz Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:54:02 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=921#comment-9157 They can claim whatever they want. At this point, legally speaking, they are a running joke. What they are really doing, is thumbing their noses at people two cowardly to enforce the law, as if to say, "Sure, we know we break the law like we break wind, but what are YOU going to do about it? You have to maintain the illusion with us, or else things will really look bad." See, Big Lies are the only thing holding the country together, mostly those that we tell ourselves, like as soon as Bush is out of office, and as soon as he's impeached, things will go back to normal, and law with order will return. Actually, Bush's unpopularity gives THEM a unique opportunity. Of all the presidents we've had, he may actually be the one who goes to jail. He just might. It could happen after he's out, and then a new "progressive" candidate allows International War Crimes Tribunals to create jurisdiction over one of the most obviously unpopular presidents in U.S. history. The U.S. might just get behind it, and then that would be the beginning of the U.S. being integrated into global government, really the only country with the ability to decline falling under UN jurisdiction; the UN being mostly an Anglo-American tool to keep the developing nations in line, and anti-Communist. They can claim whatever they want. At this point, legally speaking, they are a running joke. What they are really doing, is thumbing their noses at people two cowardly to enforce the law, as if to say, “Sure, we know we break the law like we break wind, but what are YOU going to do about it? You have to maintain the illusion with us, or else things will really look bad.”

See, Big Lies are the only thing holding the country together, mostly those that we tell ourselves, like as soon as Bush is out of office, and as soon as he’s impeached, things will go back to normal, and law with order will return.

Actually, Bush’s unpopularity gives THEM a unique opportunity. Of all the presidents we’ve had, he may actually be the one who goes to jail. He just might. It could happen after he’s out, and then a new “progressive” candidate allows International War Crimes Tribunals to create jurisdiction over one of the most obviously unpopular presidents in U.S. history. The U.S. might just get behind it, and then that would be the beginning of the U.S. being integrated into global government, really the only country with the ability to decline falling under UN jurisdiction; the UN being mostly an Anglo-American tool to keep the developing nations in line, and anti-Communist.

]]> By: Larry Glick http://cryptogon.com/?p=921&cpage=1#comment-9140 Larry Glick Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:01:39 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=921#comment-9140 Future American History Fortold: November 4, 2008: Bush suspends free elections, orders polls closed at 10:00 a.m., orders U.S. ReichMarshalsService to seize all absentee ballots. January 20, 2009: Bush declares himself American Reichchancellor for Life. Future American History Fortold:

November 4, 2008: Bush suspends free elections, orders polls closed at 10:00 a.m., orders U.S. ReichMarshalsService to seize all absentee ballots.

January 20, 2009: Bush declares himself American Reichchancellor for Life.

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