I only say this to indicate that the problems have technology fixes in place and ready for market and as for MagneGas they are going public soon I understand. I do not dispute your theory of planned kill off die off but I am also aware that the human spirit and invention and creativity is an awesome force which should not be underestimated in the grand scheme of things.

Here’s a link to an e-book, called “Lights Out.” The link was posted on the bullnotbull website awhile back, and the post-collapse scenario the author envisions is, I think, relevant to this discussion.

http://www.survivalmonkey.com/SF%20books/LightsOut!/LightsOut-Current.pdf

Strange, isn’t it, that we seem to be able to do nothing but blandly concur that we ourselves, and our friends, neighbors, and loved ones will soon be the victims of genocide?

I’ve made preparations, but like most other people, my ability to so so is somewhat limited–mainly by budgetary constraints. Some reasonable preparations include having a stockpile of staple foods, which will buy your family some time. And that’s all it will do–just buy you some time.

I have a paid-for roof over my head, I’m in the country, and I’ve put in a vegetable garden (too small to sustain more than one person, maximum, using even the very best practices). While this is theoretically good, too, the effectiveness of preparations of this kind depend on being able to stay put, and this is an unknown.

I have a wood stove, and there is abundant wood in this area, and one can hope, I suppose, that it will remain possible to buy enough gasoline, two-cycle engine oil, and bar and chain oil to power a chainsaw. If not, winters could get mighty unpleasant, simply because it would become so labor-intensive to cut wood that there would likely not be enough for actual comfort. But I guess if you have no job, you have more time for cutting firewood.

Without fossil fuels, water will become an issue–a problem that is addressed in “Lights Out.”

In my area, we must haul water. This means we depend on water being hauled from 5 miles away by a guy with a half-ton pickup with a tank on the back. (Many people haul their own water, of course.) There will come a point in time at which the cost of hauling water back in here will become prohibitive.

Accordingly, I have just begun the project of putting up guttering to run rainwater into my cistern. Due to an ill-conceived roof-line, it looks as if this project will become absurdly costly.

After the rainwater collection set-up is finished–and who knows how long that will take–I’d like to have some kind of minimal back-up electricity. Another immensely costly project.

And regardless of any preparations I make, how the die-off will actually go down is an imponderable–and very likely it will be accompanied by a great deal of violence, especially in the cities.

I don’t think it will be possible to keep the problems contained within the cities–at least not indefinitely. And what will happen in country towns, when the majority of their populations are hungry?

And so, I too blandly concur that a catastrophe of inconceivable proportions awaits us–and it will not be too far into the future–and any preparations we make are only guesswork. All our best guesses could be undone by unforeseen circumstances, or even the casual forces of mere accident.

http://www.financialsense.com/...../0511.html

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=900

I wonder what other mass atrocities we can blame on global warming? I’d say the possibilities are endless at this point.

http://video.google.com/videop.....9548020370

Powerdown was written before his epiphany. Not a criticism, it was written before many people had a handle on just how desperate/devious the situation is.

Well, they could say that, but it would have to be followed by “and here’s our plan to deal with it.” Since there’s no plan, such a statement would likely lead to panic, at least in the economic sector.

In his Book “Powerdown”, Richard Heinberg writes the imaginary speech that George W. Bush should have given after 9/11, mandating that the business of American business would henceforth be to wean ourselves off of fossil fuels: electric cars, improved mass transit, solar, etc. Nice dream, but….

I don’t intend to be one of the dead, and am making the necessary preparations.

Everybody knows that biofuel is a scam, most of all the oil industry. They know oil is peaking. It makes perfect sense to stop investing in refineries. The only question for them his how to argue for it, because they can’t just say that oil has peaked. So they use biofuel as excuse.

In a related note: it also does not make sense to manufacture more airplanes, or build bigger highways, or increase car manufacturing capacities, or increase air travel capacity. But that’s just something nobody wants to acknowledge.

The solution to these real problems, is a kill-off. That’s pretty much what the elite in those previous societies attempted as well: to kill off the competing elites and the non-essential peasantry. I think somebody in one of today’[s top factions will just preemptively release a bioweapon, if they haven’t done so already.