<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Remember My Warnings About Closed Source Computer Security Products and Services?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://cryptogon.com/?feed=rss2&#038;p=814" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814</link>
	<description>news - analysis - conspiracies</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:25:23 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: ETT</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-9145</link>
		<dc:creator>ETT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-9145</guid>
		<description>I hope you don&#039;t mind me making a few comments on this blog.  

I&#039;ve read thousands of articles and blogs on the various different conspiracy theories floating around in regards to 9/11, Peak Oil, Police State, NAU, Government Corruption etc...  I&#039;ve also read Greg Palast&#039;s, and Mike Ruppert&#039;s books. 

I want to give some support to Mike Ruppert and anyone else (including Kevin) who is making an effort to get &quot;their truth&quot; out.  I see a lot of people accusing one another of being shills, and left gatekeepers; often based simply on differences of opinion.
This is exactly what the real gatekeepers/shills want.  If we eat our own, they can sit back and enjoy the show.

There are so many facets to the whole story.  This government along with their big business cronies, and other government allies, are up to so many nefarious acts, it&#039;s hard to figure out how it all ties together; other than &quot;greed is good&quot;.  I think &quot;money is the root of all evil&quot; in this scenario.  Any and all ways for these bastards to accumulate more of it seems to be the ultimate prize. It may be as simple as that!

There is more acts to this play.  In the interim, I wish everyone could work together to expose the truth without all the infighting.  

Thank you Kevin, and Mike Ruppert for having the courage to stand up against the criminals that have highjacked the US.

From a concerned friend in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you don&#8217;t mind me making a few comments on this blog.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read thousands of articles and blogs on the various different conspiracy theories floating around in regards to 9/11, Peak Oil, Police State, NAU, Government Corruption etc&#8230;  I&#8217;ve also read Greg Palast&#8217;s, and Mike Ruppert&#8217;s books. </p>
<p>I want to give some support to Mike Ruppert and anyone else (including Kevin) who is making an effort to get &#8220;their truth&#8221; out.  I see a lot of people accusing one another of being shills, and left gatekeepers; often based simply on differences of opinion.<br />
This is exactly what the real gatekeepers/shills want.  If we eat our own, they can sit back and enjoy the show.</p>
<p>There are so many facets to the whole story.  This government along with their big business cronies, and other government allies, are up to so many nefarious acts, it&#8217;s hard to figure out how it all ties together; other than &#8220;greed is good&#8221;.  I think &#8220;money is the root of all evil&#8221; in this scenario.  Any and all ways for these bastards to accumulate more of it seems to be the ultimate prize. It may be as simple as that!</p>
<p>There is more acts to this play.  In the interim, I wish everyone could work together to expose the truth without all the infighting.  </p>
<p>Thank you Kevin, and Mike Ruppert for having the courage to stand up against the criminals that have highjacked the US.</p>
<p>From a concerned friend in Canada.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ajv</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-9078</link>
		<dc:creator>ajv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-9078</guid>
		<description>holy shit...and I had just ordered Ruppert&#039;s book...guess I won&#039;t be picking it up...that was one incoherent, demented response, and I don&#039;t pretend to have any real knowledge of the specfic issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy shit&#8230;and I had just ordered Ruppert&#8217;s book&#8230;guess I won&#8217;t be picking it up&#8230;that was one incoherent, demented response, and I don&#8217;t pretend to have any real knowledge of the specfic issues.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8961</link>
		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 03:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8961</guid>
		<description>Thanks Kevin for your informative article!

I see what you are saying 100%, and it makes sense to me.

I&#039;m surprised by the defensive posture Matt Savinar took with you. Are you supposed to check with him (got to be kidding me) before you write something?

God forbid you might insinuate Ruppert might not have all the facts. How outrageous! Seems to me if Armorware was that secure, he wouldn&#039;t need Jenna Orkin to act as a proxy. 

Back to the point - bottom line is: no one but armorware knows what they do with their customers information. How can anyone really say where their interests lie outside of making money?

The fact alone that Mr. Ruppert reccomends a closed source mystery system makes me very leery indeed.

Thanks again for your insightful article. Hope more people read it so they can make educated decisions prior to making bad ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kevin for your informative article!</p>
<p>I see what you are saying 100%, and it makes sense to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised by the defensive posture Matt Savinar took with you. Are you supposed to check with him (got to be kidding me) before you write something?</p>
<p>God forbid you might insinuate Ruppert might not have all the facts. How outrageous! Seems to me if Armorware was that secure, he wouldn&#8217;t need Jenna Orkin to act as a proxy. </p>
<p>Back to the point &#8211; bottom line is: no one but armorware knows what they do with their customers information. How can anyone really say where their interests lie outside of making money?</p>
<p>The fact alone that Mr. Ruppert reccomends a closed source mystery system makes me very leery indeed.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your insightful article. Hope more people read it so they can make educated decisions prior to making bad ones.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike Ruppert and Jenna Orkin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8638</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ruppert and Jenna Orkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8638</guid>
		<description>Hi -

We&#039;ve been informed by Catherine Austin Fitts that she&#039;s no longer associated with PQI.  Therefore could you please remove the sentence in Mike&#039;s comment that refers to her?

Many thanks and apologies for the inconvenience.

Jenna Orkin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi -</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been informed by Catherine Austin Fitts that she&#8217;s no longer associated with PQI.  Therefore could you please remove the sentence in Mike&#8217;s comment that refers to her?</p>
<p>Many thanks and apologies for the inconvenience.</p>
<p>Jenna Orkin</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8547</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 00:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8547</guid>
		<description>Well, well. Look at this:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/130605memberfeature.htm

&lt;blockquote&gt;New Prison Planet.tv Member Feature: Anonymous Surfing and E Mailing

Prison Planet &#124; June 13 2005

We are offering our Prison Planet.tv members two exclusive new features which come completely free at no extra charge.

Anonymous surfing and e mailing options are now available to our great members!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who else? Any other dissidents or activists selling or promoting honeypot products or services like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well. Look at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/130605memberfeature.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.prisonplanet.com/ar.....eature.htm</a></p>
<blockquote><p>New Prison Planet.tv Member Feature: Anonymous Surfing and E Mailing</p>
<p>Prison Planet | June 13 2005</p>
<p>We are offering our Prison Planet.tv members two exclusive new features which come completely free at no extra charge.</p>
<p>Anonymous surfing and e mailing options are now available to our great members!</p></blockquote>
<p>Who else? Any other dissidents or activists selling or promoting honeypot products or services like this?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8545</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 00:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8545</guid>
		<description>Thanks for responding, Mike.

For anyone keeping track, here are a list of topics from my essay that Mike failed to address:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Users of that software have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what itâ€™s actually doing.

Since the software requires VPN connections to Armorware servers in Canada, for U.S. users, all of these sessions will explicitly be targeted by NSA.

...how would I know that theyâ€™re not running keylogging routines that capture my passphrases and a few lines of code that transmits my keystrokes and private crypto keys to their servers?

Since they are the man-in-the-middle on the â€œsecureâ€ sessions, they would be in a position to capture my encrypted email as well as my surfing history and everything that I do online. Recover my private keys, and, well, this is the worst nightmare scenario Iâ€™ve had to think about in a long time.

In other words, since I donâ€™t know what their closed source binaries are doing, they could potentially be doing things that make decrypting what I think are totally private communications a simple, point-and-click matter.

Of course, skilled security analysts could conduct packet analysis on what exactly was passing between the client and Armorwareâ€™s servers. Even if that turned out to be clean and legit, how would we determine exactly what was happening on Armorwareâ€™s servers?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know why Mike Ruppert chose to bring Alex Jones into this, but if Alex Jones is personally endorsing or offering closed source computer security products or anonymity services, etc, I&#039;d like to know about that.

I&#039;d like to know about any activist or dissident who was offering or endorsing these products or services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for responding, Mike.</p>
<p>For anyone keeping track, here are a list of topics from my essay that Mike failed to address:</p>
<blockquote><p>Users of that software have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what itâ€™s actually doing.</p>
<p>Since the software requires VPN connections to Armorware servers in Canada, for U.S. users, all of these sessions will explicitly be targeted by NSA.</p>
<p>&#8230;how would I know that theyâ€™re not running keylogging routines that capture my passphrases and a few lines of code that transmits my keystrokes and private crypto keys to their servers?</p>
<p>Since they are the man-in-the-middle on the â€œsecureâ€ sessions, they would be in a position to capture my encrypted email as well as my surfing history and everything that I do online. Recover my private keys, and, well, this is the worst nightmare scenario Iâ€™ve had to think about in a long time.</p>
<p>In other words, since I donâ€™t know what their closed source binaries are doing, they could potentially be doing things that make decrypting what I think are totally private communications a simple, point-and-click matter.</p>
<p>Of course, skilled security analysts could conduct packet analysis on what exactly was passing between the client and Armorwareâ€™s servers. Even if that turned out to be clean and legit, how would we determine exactly what was happening on Armorwareâ€™s servers?</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why Mike Ruppert chose to bring Alex Jones into this, but if Alex Jones is personally endorsing or offering closed source computer security products or anonymity services, etc, I&#8217;d like to know about that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know about any activist or dissident who was offering or endorsing these products or services.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike Ruppert</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8538</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ruppert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8538</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;//MOD CORRECTION

Jenna Orkin submitted the following message that corrects information presented in Mike Ruppert&#039;s response:

&lt;blockquote&gt;June 7th, 2007 at 3:01 pm

Hi -

Weâ€™ve been informed by Catherine Austin Fitts that sheâ€™s no longer associated with PQI. Therefore could you please remove the sentence in Mikeâ€™s comment that refers to her?

Many thanks and apologies for the inconvenience.

Jenna Orkin&lt;/blockquote&gt;

-Kevin

END MOD//&lt;/strong&gt;

The comment below was written by Mike Ruppert and initially sent to Matt Savinar for submission to Cryptogon.  However, since we haven&#039;t heard from Matt, I&#039;m submitting it instead as Mike&#039;s proxy, in order to protect the privacy of his email address.

I can verify having seen the letter Mike refers to in which he resigned from PQI.  That letter&#039;s not being included now only because Mike&#039;s comment is already so long.  

Jenna Orkin
*************************************************
This is Mike Ruppert. Matt can verfiy that this message came directly
from me. I am sticking my periscope up this once to put a few folks on
notice that I am still very much alive and in full possession of my
faculties. Unlike the previous nine years, however, I will not
re-engage in any dialogue after offering these comments and responses.
After 28 years of dedicated activism I am retired from that field of
battle. The price was too great; the returns too little. However, I am
not through making contributions on the two real and dangerous issues
that confront all of us: Peak Oil and Global Warming.

I will soon be starting another book.

Let me address the points of this thread as I saw them in order.

ARMORWARE -- The open/closed source debate is a Red Herring. Apples
and Oranges are mixed here. Spyware was my first initial concern,
(i.e. the vulnerability of files stored on my personal hard drive to
compromise via backdoors in any number of programs or operating
systems. When I met the folks from Armorware (at a PQI event -- see
below) I took a lot of time to see what was an utterly elegant
solution to the problem of preventing spyware or malware from entering
my hard drive. It required no technical expertise.

Armorware, designed by a Russian emigre computer scientist living in
Toronto whom I have met, operated, SOLELY from a CD-ROM which &quot;on
boot&quot; became the ONLY operating system the Internet ever saw or
interfaced with. The hard drive was never accessed or even turned on
in the sense that we think of. All web surfing and emailing (including
1024 bit encryption) was done from the CD ROM drive so it was NOT
possible for anything to access or compromise the hard drive from THE
OUTSIDE. No technical knowledge of any kind is required to understand
the significance of this.

No one could track my web surfing either.

Sure, the creators of Armorware  understood that they were a
third-party intermediary with their servers. That&#039;s why they offer
such amazing guarantees. I knew them personally and in 2004 I
travelled to Toronto to meet with all the significant members of the
company and test drive the product. They were and remain my trusted
friends. My input was asked (non-technical of course) about
funtionality and uses and I offered my suggestions, some of which were
incorporated. All of the Armor Technlogy family were kindred spirits,
concerned about civil liberties and privacy protection in age of
massive government spying and data theft..

The most intelligent comment in this thread was from the person who
said that the only perfect solution for internet security was to lock
your computer up in a safe and never gone on line at all.

But what I saw remains, a quantum leap in protecting one&#039;s personal
computer from unwanted surreptitious intrusions. But Armoware offered
other distinct advantages. One could pack up the CD and go anywhere in
the world to almost any cyber cafe and reboot in a secure mode without
disclosing one&#039;s location. A USB stick compatible with the OS provided
tons of space to store encrypted documents and passwords so that one
could literally go almost anywhere and have much better odds of
privacy. This is, in the end, all about odds and probabilities.

Although I have been out of touch with them for a while I understand
that the whole package is now contained in one USB stick (Operating
System and files) that makes it even easier to use. Armor
Technologies, http://www.armorware.com/, is in negotiations with some
large corporations for large contracts to safely transmit secure data
so obviously someone thinks it has value.

Now I realize that the last statement will be used against me. If
large corporatins like it then it must be proof that it&#039;s comrpomised
or the enemy. No, they want to use it in-house. They want to protect
their data.

As to allegations that I did all that for money I remind everyone the
in its eight years FTW never accepted any paid advertising of an kind.
I wouldn&#039;t ever let us be compromised editorially. Armorware is the
only product I ever endorsed, excluding gold. I became an Armoware
affiliate (as described on their web page) and enjoyed the benefits of
that. There ain&#039;t nothing wrong with folks. It&#039;s called paying the
rent and good business.

PQI -- I severed all contact with PQI in November of 2005 because it
had deteriorated rapidly from the stimulating and cutting-edge
educational program it was when I first started working with them. I
have attached a copy of my November, 2005 email with this message to
Matt Savinar and he may post it or not as he sees fit. But he will be
able to confirm that he has seen it. Armoware severed all relations
with PQI about ten months later. As far as I know, Catherine Austin
Fitts is still affiliated with PQI.

ME SUING PEOPLE -- Only once have I ever sued anyone. It was a former
employee who I had connected to a government operation to sabotage my
company from within (an operation which continued after we moved to
Ashland). I won that suit in court after proving the sabotage. I have
threatened to sue people who have employed libelous and dishonest
smear tactics. That&#039;s why we have laws to prevent such things and why
such conduct is illegal. But to argue that I defend my work by relying
on threats of a lawsuit is ridiculous. All of my work and FTW&#039;s work
has always been fully documented. That&#039;s why I wrote a six-hundred
page book with a thousand footnotes which is now in the Harvard
Business School library.


GARY WEBB -- Well, here&#039;s where the flames come out. (Everone wanted a
little fireworks right?). Gary left a long trail indicating his
intention to commit suicide starting about ten days before his death.
(Actually, even longer.) Let&#039;s deal with the two shots first since
that&#039;s the place where amateuers and dilettantes get so hooked and
become such unjustified and unqualified experts. There&#039;s a couple of
pieces of real bad disinformation in this thread. Gary was not shot
&quot;in the face&quot;. After his death I went to Sacramento and interviewed
his entire family except for his mother. This included his brother,
his ex-wife and his three children. They were all open and frank with
me, knowing that I had been close to him.

His brother, ex-wife and eldest son all told me they when they saw his
body in the morgue, pre-autopsy, they observed two entry wounds near
the right temple (NOT THE FACE). I originally reported that the first
wound had blown out Gary&#039;s lower left jaw. His ex wife, Susan, later
corrected me that the bullet had not exited the jaw but it was clear
that the jaw had been shattered and pushed outwards. There was a
massive edema, confirming that it was a pre-mortem wound.

Now, draw a human head from the front. Put ears on so you know where
the temples are. Draw a line from the right temple to the lower left
jaw and tell me if any vital organs have been hit or if any arteries
have been severed? No, they have not.

The second wound was in a straight line from temple to temple across
the midbrain and was the fatal shot.

The autopsy report did not say that the shots were fired from three
feet away, it stated that the shots were fired from WITHIN three feet
away. That is a standard statement when gunpowder residue is found on
the skin. I was told there was also stippling (Look it up). That
indicates a much closer range (i.e. within inches). All of this was
also reported in several newspapers. It is not the ME&#039;s role to decide
the distance of the shot from gunpowder residure but rather an
explosives expert who can analyaze the powder and compare it to the
barrell length of the gun and make of the ammunition used. (I was an
LAPD detective, remember?) That had not been done when I was up there.

The weapon used was Gary&#039;s own.38 revolver and he was probably using
weak target ammunition.

Next go to the web and look up &quot;hesitation wounds&quot;. The occur with
guns just as they do with suicide slashes. I have seen them when I was
with LAPD. Gary screwed up the first shot and finished it with the
second. This is what every member of his family who saw the body told
me. The first shot was clearly NOT a fatal wound. While Alex Jones was
publishing stories about Ninja-clad warriors sliding down drain pipes
to Gary&#039;s upper-floor balcony, I was in Sacramento photographing
Gary&#039;s single family, one-story home which had no balcony which is
where he killed himself.

(I get slammed for promoting one prouduct. How many paid advertisers
are there on Alex Jones&#039; sites?)

Now add to that the fact that in the ten days prior to his death Gary had:

-- changed the beneficiatries and upped the payouts on his insurance policies;
-- wriiten individual letters to each of his children, his ex-wife,
his mother and his brother telling them goodbye, They all confirmed
receiving such letters to me personally and in front of other
journalists at the memorial service;
-- moved all of his most valued personal belongings to his mother&#039;s
garage and said goodbye.
-- sent an email to Al Giordano of Narconews saying that he was
contemplating suicide. (I believe Al told me that he even called Gary
on the phone and tried to disuade him)

Gary was telegraphing his suicide to everybody. Even I had sensed it
coming in my last communications with him. He couldn&#039;t get hired
anywhere and he had burned many bridges behind him. He was behind on
is house payments.

So anyone who believes that Gary was murdered, based on the evidence,
gets an honorary tin foil hat -- with a propeller and a satellite dish
(Oh, geez, there I go showing my bad people skills again). The thing
that makes me so f-----g agry is the pain this has caused Gary&#039;s
family every time it gets brought up again.

IRAN -- The US is not ging to attack Iran. Stan Goff and I have been
right for three years on this and we are still going to be right three
years from now. The US wants and needs rapprochement with Iran for
several reasons:

1. To be able to plug Caspian heavy-sour crude into the existing Iran
pipeline system and bypass Russian strategic threats along the
northern Caspian littorals and into the US-controlled Gulf.

2. Both the US and Iran are more concerned about Russian threats.
Russia sees the US weakening and is becoming bolder. That puts Iran in
a squeeze too. In order for Russia to get to the Gulf it has to go
through Iran. Right now the &quot;sideshow hostility&quot; between the US and
Iran is good politically for both Bush&#039;s and Ahmadinejad&#039;s poll
ratings, such as they are..

3. Militatrily (especially logistically) the US cannot possibly take
on major attacks against Iran.

4. Iran and Venezuela are in a mutual defense pact wherein Venezuela
will shut off oil deliveries to the US if Iran is attacked.

5. China, Japan, Europe and Southeast Asia cannot survive without
Iranian oil and Iran will close the Straits of Hormuz. These countries
will go crazy if the US attacks.


MY HEALTH AND THE BREAKDOWN -- As some of you should observe by now my
brain is working just fine, thank you. What happened to me was just as
much a medical/physical illness as a stress-induced depression. I make
no apologies or excuses for it. None are necesary. I returned to the
US to save my life. I was going to die in Venezuela. I needed English
speaking friends and culture around me as much as I needed air. I also
needed medical treatment badly. Venezuela was a horrible experience
but I will deal with that publicly on another occasion.

I love all the speculation about the what&#039;s whys and wherefores. It&#039;s
better than the gossip mags.

You can expect to hear from me again sometime in the Fall when Donald
Rumsfeld hopefully gets indicted over FTW&#039;s Pat Tillman series.
Everything that has broken came from our investigation of the Army
records and Stan Goff&#039;s brilliant work. Every handout that was given
to Congress came from our series. We were publishing that series when
our computers were smashed in Oregon and we had just proved that
Rumfeld was guilty of multiple felonies when the burglary occurred.

Remember Watergate and &quot;The Plumbers&quot;.

What I am going to continue to do now is to take care of myself,
something which I neglected to do for two decades.

So y&#039;all can go back to speculating now. Matt, my good friend, as they
say, &quot;non carborundum illegitimati&quot;.

Mike Ruppert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>//MOD CORRECTION</p>
<p>Jenna Orkin submitted the following message that corrects information presented in Mike Ruppert&#8217;s response:</p>
<blockquote><p>June 7th, 2007 at 3:01 pm</p>
<p>Hi -</p>
<p>Weâ€™ve been informed by Catherine Austin Fitts that sheâ€™s no longer associated with PQI. Therefore could you please remove the sentence in Mikeâ€™s comment that refers to her?</p>
<p>Many thanks and apologies for the inconvenience.</p>
<p>Jenna Orkin</p></blockquote>
<p>-Kevin</p>
<p>END MOD//</strong></p>
<p>The comment below was written by Mike Ruppert and initially sent to Matt Savinar for submission to Cryptogon.  However, since we haven&#8217;t heard from Matt, I&#8217;m submitting it instead as Mike&#8217;s proxy, in order to protect the privacy of his email address.</p>
<p>I can verify having seen the letter Mike refers to in which he resigned from PQI.  That letter&#8217;s not being included now only because Mike&#8217;s comment is already so long.  </p>
<p>Jenna Orkin<br />
*************************************************<br />
This is Mike Ruppert. Matt can verfiy that this message came directly<br />
from me. I am sticking my periscope up this once to put a few folks on<br />
notice that I am still very much alive and in full possession of my<br />
faculties. Unlike the previous nine years, however, I will not<br />
re-engage in any dialogue after offering these comments and responses.<br />
After 28 years of dedicated activism I am retired from that field of<br />
battle. The price was too great; the returns too little. However, I am<br />
not through making contributions on the two real and dangerous issues<br />
that confront all of us: Peak Oil and Global Warming.</p>
<p>I will soon be starting another book.</p>
<p>Let me address the points of this thread as I saw them in order.</p>
<p>ARMORWARE &#8212; The open/closed source debate is a Red Herring. Apples<br />
and Oranges are mixed here. Spyware was my first initial concern,<br />
(i.e. the vulnerability of files stored on my personal hard drive to<br />
compromise via backdoors in any number of programs or operating<br />
systems. When I met the folks from Armorware (at a PQI event &#8212; see<br />
below) I took a lot of time to see what was an utterly elegant<br />
solution to the problem of preventing spyware or malware from entering<br />
my hard drive. It required no technical expertise.</p>
<p>Armorware, designed by a Russian emigre computer scientist living in<br />
Toronto whom I have met, operated, SOLELY from a CD-ROM which &#8220;on<br />
boot&#8221; became the ONLY operating system the Internet ever saw or<br />
interfaced with. The hard drive was never accessed or even turned on<br />
in the sense that we think of. All web surfing and emailing (including<br />
1024 bit encryption) was done from the CD ROM drive so it was NOT<br />
possible for anything to access or compromise the hard drive from THE<br />
OUTSIDE. No technical knowledge of any kind is required to understand<br />
the significance of this.</p>
<p>No one could track my web surfing either.</p>
<p>Sure, the creators of Armorware  understood that they were a<br />
third-party intermediary with their servers. That&#8217;s why they offer<br />
such amazing guarantees. I knew them personally and in 2004 I<br />
travelled to Toronto to meet with all the significant members of the<br />
company and test drive the product. They were and remain my trusted<br />
friends. My input was asked (non-technical of course) about<br />
funtionality and uses and I offered my suggestions, some of which were<br />
incorporated. All of the Armor Technlogy family were kindred spirits,<br />
concerned about civil liberties and privacy protection in age of<br />
massive government spying and data theft..</p>
<p>The most intelligent comment in this thread was from the person who<br />
said that the only perfect solution for internet security was to lock<br />
your computer up in a safe and never gone on line at all.</p>
<p>But what I saw remains, a quantum leap in protecting one&#8217;s personal<br />
computer from unwanted surreptitious intrusions. But Armoware offered<br />
other distinct advantages. One could pack up the CD and go anywhere in<br />
the world to almost any cyber cafe and reboot in a secure mode without<br />
disclosing one&#8217;s location. A USB stick compatible with the OS provided<br />
tons of space to store encrypted documents and passwords so that one<br />
could literally go almost anywhere and have much better odds of<br />
privacy. This is, in the end, all about odds and probabilities.</p>
<p>Although I have been out of touch with them for a while I understand<br />
that the whole package is now contained in one USB stick (Operating<br />
System and files) that makes it even easier to use. Armor<br />
Technologies, <a href="http://www.armorware.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.armorware.com/</a>, is in negotiations with some<br />
large corporations for large contracts to safely transmit secure data<br />
so obviously someone thinks it has value.</p>
<p>Now I realize that the last statement will be used against me. If<br />
large corporatins like it then it must be proof that it&#8217;s comrpomised<br />
or the enemy. No, they want to use it in-house. They want to protect<br />
their data.</p>
<p>As to allegations that I did all that for money I remind everyone the<br />
in its eight years FTW never accepted any paid advertising of an kind.<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t ever let us be compromised editorially. Armorware is the<br />
only product I ever endorsed, excluding gold. I became an Armoware<br />
affiliate (as described on their web page) and enjoyed the benefits of<br />
that. There ain&#8217;t nothing wrong with folks. It&#8217;s called paying the<br />
rent and good business.</p>
<p>PQI &#8212; I severed all contact with PQI in November of 2005 because it<br />
had deteriorated rapidly from the stimulating and cutting-edge<br />
educational program it was when I first started working with them. I<br />
have attached a copy of my November, 2005 email with this message to<br />
Matt Savinar and he may post it or not as he sees fit. But he will be<br />
able to confirm that he has seen it. Armoware severed all relations<br />
with PQI about ten months later. As far as I know, Catherine Austin<br />
Fitts is still affiliated with PQI.</p>
<p>ME SUING PEOPLE &#8212; Only once have I ever sued anyone. It was a former<br />
employee who I had connected to a government operation to sabotage my<br />
company from within (an operation which continued after we moved to<br />
Ashland). I won that suit in court after proving the sabotage. I have<br />
threatened to sue people who have employed libelous and dishonest<br />
smear tactics. That&#8217;s why we have laws to prevent such things and why<br />
such conduct is illegal. But to argue that I defend my work by relying<br />
on threats of a lawsuit is ridiculous. All of my work and FTW&#8217;s work<br />
has always been fully documented. That&#8217;s why I wrote a six-hundred<br />
page book with a thousand footnotes which is now in the Harvard<br />
Business School library.</p>
<p>GARY WEBB &#8212; Well, here&#8217;s where the flames come out. (Everone wanted a<br />
little fireworks right?). Gary left a long trail indicating his<br />
intention to commit suicide starting about ten days before his death.<br />
(Actually, even longer.) Let&#8217;s deal with the two shots first since<br />
that&#8217;s the place where amateuers and dilettantes get so hooked and<br />
become such unjustified and unqualified experts. There&#8217;s a couple of<br />
pieces of real bad disinformation in this thread. Gary was not shot<br />
&#8220;in the face&#8221;. After his death I went to Sacramento and interviewed<br />
his entire family except for his mother. This included his brother,<br />
his ex-wife and his three children. They were all open and frank with<br />
me, knowing that I had been close to him.</p>
<p>His brother, ex-wife and eldest son all told me they when they saw his<br />
body in the morgue, pre-autopsy, they observed two entry wounds near<br />
the right temple (NOT THE FACE). I originally reported that the first<br />
wound had blown out Gary&#8217;s lower left jaw. His ex wife, Susan, later<br />
corrected me that the bullet had not exited the jaw but it was clear<br />
that the jaw had been shattered and pushed outwards. There was a<br />
massive edema, confirming that it was a pre-mortem wound.</p>
<p>Now, draw a human head from the front. Put ears on so you know where<br />
the temples are. Draw a line from the right temple to the lower left<br />
jaw and tell me if any vital organs have been hit or if any arteries<br />
have been severed? No, they have not.</p>
<p>The second wound was in a straight line from temple to temple across<br />
the midbrain and was the fatal shot.</p>
<p>The autopsy report did not say that the shots were fired from three<br />
feet away, it stated that the shots were fired from WITHIN three feet<br />
away. That is a standard statement when gunpowder residue is found on<br />
the skin. I was told there was also stippling (Look it up). That<br />
indicates a much closer range (i.e. within inches). All of this was<br />
also reported in several newspapers. It is not the ME&#8217;s role to decide<br />
the distance of the shot from gunpowder residure but rather an<br />
explosives expert who can analyaze the powder and compare it to the<br />
barrell length of the gun and make of the ammunition used. (I was an<br />
LAPD detective, remember?) That had not been done when I was up there.</p>
<p>The weapon used was Gary&#8217;s own.38 revolver and he was probably using<br />
weak target ammunition.</p>
<p>Next go to the web and look up &#8220;hesitation wounds&#8221;. The occur with<br />
guns just as they do with suicide slashes. I have seen them when I was<br />
with LAPD. Gary screwed up the first shot and finished it with the<br />
second. This is what every member of his family who saw the body told<br />
me. The first shot was clearly NOT a fatal wound. While Alex Jones was<br />
publishing stories about Ninja-clad warriors sliding down drain pipes<br />
to Gary&#8217;s upper-floor balcony, I was in Sacramento photographing<br />
Gary&#8217;s single family, one-story home which had no balcony which is<br />
where he killed himself.</p>
<p>(I get slammed for promoting one prouduct. How many paid advertisers<br />
are there on Alex Jones&#8217; sites?)</p>
<p>Now add to that the fact that in the ten days prior to his death Gary had:</p>
<p>&#8211; changed the beneficiatries and upped the payouts on his insurance policies;<br />
&#8211; wriiten individual letters to each of his children, his ex-wife,<br />
his mother and his brother telling them goodbye, They all confirmed<br />
receiving such letters to me personally and in front of other<br />
journalists at the memorial service;<br />
&#8211; moved all of his most valued personal belongings to his mother&#8217;s<br />
garage and said goodbye.<br />
&#8211; sent an email to Al Giordano of Narconews saying that he was<br />
contemplating suicide. (I believe Al told me that he even called Gary<br />
on the phone and tried to disuade him)</p>
<p>Gary was telegraphing his suicide to everybody. Even I had sensed it<br />
coming in my last communications with him. He couldn&#8217;t get hired<br />
anywhere and he had burned many bridges behind him. He was behind on<br />
is house payments.</p>
<p>So anyone who believes that Gary was murdered, based on the evidence,<br />
gets an honorary tin foil hat &#8212; with a propeller and a satellite dish<br />
(Oh, geez, there I go showing my bad people skills again). The thing<br />
that makes me so f&#8212;&#8211;g agry is the pain this has caused Gary&#8217;s<br />
family every time it gets brought up again.</p>
<p>IRAN &#8212; The US is not ging to attack Iran. Stan Goff and I have been<br />
right for three years on this and we are still going to be right three<br />
years from now. The US wants and needs rapprochement with Iran for<br />
several reasons:</p>
<p>1. To be able to plug Caspian heavy-sour crude into the existing Iran<br />
pipeline system and bypass Russian strategic threats along the<br />
northern Caspian littorals and into the US-controlled Gulf.</p>
<p>2. Both the US and Iran are more concerned about Russian threats.<br />
Russia sees the US weakening and is becoming bolder. That puts Iran in<br />
a squeeze too. In order for Russia to get to the Gulf it has to go<br />
through Iran. Right now the &#8220;sideshow hostility&#8221; between the US and<br />
Iran is good politically for both Bush&#8217;s and Ahmadinejad&#8217;s poll<br />
ratings, such as they are..</p>
<p>3. Militatrily (especially logistically) the US cannot possibly take<br />
on major attacks against Iran.</p>
<p>4. Iran and Venezuela are in a mutual defense pact wherein Venezuela<br />
will shut off oil deliveries to the US if Iran is attacked.</p>
<p>5. China, Japan, Europe and Southeast Asia cannot survive without<br />
Iranian oil and Iran will close the Straits of Hormuz. These countries<br />
will go crazy if the US attacks.</p>
<p>MY HEALTH AND THE BREAKDOWN &#8212; As some of you should observe by now my<br />
brain is working just fine, thank you. What happened to me was just as<br />
much a medical/physical illness as a stress-induced depression. I make<br />
no apologies or excuses for it. None are necesary. I returned to the<br />
US to save my life. I was going to die in Venezuela. I needed English<br />
speaking friends and culture around me as much as I needed air. I also<br />
needed medical treatment badly. Venezuela was a horrible experience<br />
but I will deal with that publicly on another occasion.</p>
<p>I love all the speculation about the what&#8217;s whys and wherefores. It&#8217;s<br />
better than the gossip mags.</p>
<p>You can expect to hear from me again sometime in the Fall when Donald<br />
Rumsfeld hopefully gets indicted over FTW&#8217;s Pat Tillman series.<br />
Everything that has broken came from our investigation of the Army<br />
records and Stan Goff&#8217;s brilliant work. Every handout that was given<br />
to Congress came from our series. We were publishing that series when<br />
our computers were smashed in Oregon and we had just proved that<br />
Rumfeld was guilty of multiple felonies when the burglary occurred.</p>
<p>Remember Watergate and &#8220;The Plumbers&#8221;.</p>
<p>What I am going to continue to do now is to take care of myself,<br />
something which I neglected to do for two decades.</p>
<p>So y&#8217;all can go back to speculating now. Matt, my good friend, as they<br />
say, &#8220;non carborundum illegitimati&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mike Ruppert</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Zippy</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8536</link>
		<dc:creator>Zippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8536</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;//MOD Commenter is trying to change the subject of this thread / poison the well with bullshit no-plane WTC theories. Comment deleted. -Kevin&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>//MOD Commenter is trying to change the subject of this thread / poison the well with bullshit no-plane WTC theories. Comment deleted. -Kevin</strong></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Zippy</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8534</link>
		<dc:creator>Zippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8534</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;//MOD Commenter is trying to change the subject of this thread / poison the well with bullshit no-plane WTC theories. Comment deleted. -Kevin&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>//MOD Commenter is trying to change the subject of this thread / poison the well with bullshit no-plane WTC theories. Comment deleted. -Kevin</strong></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8501</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8501</guid>
		<description>Zippy - I like your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zippy &#8211; I like your post.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Zippy</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8485</link>
		<dc:creator>Zippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 08:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8485</guid>
		<description>Matt: I never said that Ruppert was wrong about peak oil. I said that he shows great inconsistencies. He claims, in spite of all the evidence, that the U.S. will not attack Iran. What? Has he somehow ignored that planetary collapse is well underway? Of course, the Washington Consensus knows the situation better than us, hell, they&#039;ve got our money to do their research. How can he possibly try to afirm that Gary Webb was able to shoot himself twice in the face, that it happens from time to time when the coroner is supposed to have declared it was from three feet away? Did Webb have arms that dragged on the ground? Military experts, of whom Ruppert is clearly not, have stated that the longer those ships remain in the Gulf, the closer the U.S. military is to attacking Iran. Ruppert claims it wonâ€™t happen. How can he make such an outrageous statement? Jesus, all the experts are telling us that weâ€™re past peak and on the downhill side since November 2005. Of course, theyâ€™re going to attack Iran. Those fat cats in Washington want to continue â€œour way of lifeâ€ to quote Cheney. They are leading us to WWIII or WWIV with China and/or Russia. You choose the number. 

Last summer, I attended the Solfest in Hopland. New Society Publishers had a table of their books and carried a copy of Barrie Zwickerâ€™s book â€œTowers of Deception.â€ He has a special chapter dedicated to gatekeepers of the Left titled â€œThe Shame of Noam Chomsky and the Gatekeepers of the Left.â€ Iâ€™d read this book several months before and went though my â€œshock and aweâ€ moment. Now I can say that, after checking out either the distortions or omissions of Goodman and Chomsky since that reading, they are not who them claim to be. Anyhow, a guy was there selling the latest peak oil chart. I mentioned to him that Goodman and Chomsky were gatekeepers, and that he could read about it in  Zwickerâ€™s new book. He flatly refused to check it out and dismissed me as a nutcase. At Survival Acres blog, he clearly describes that kind of behavior as a â€œconsensus trance.â€ http://survivalacres.com/wordpress/?p=657  This trance can emerge anywhere. We have to guard against it if we are to be able to see reality with any consistency. 

Look, we are heading into the greatest global crisis since the die off of the dinosaurs eons ago. The state has been lying to us forever. We canâ€™t have sacred cows anymore than sacred people. Ruppert is not immune to criticism.  We have Alex Jones who tells us that 9/11 was an inside job, then tells us that peak oil is an oil company hoax and says, â€œIâ€™ve got the documents to prove it.â€ Iâ€™ve check his documents. While Iâ€™m not a lawyer, itâ€™s not hard to see that his â€œevidenceâ€ is worse than a joke. He also tells us that global warming is a fraud. Well, who would both of these arguments benefit? The oil companies. Then thereâ€™s Webster Tarpley. Heâ€™s a darling of the 9/11 movement. What does he say about peak oil? You can see his open lies here in this YouTube video http://youtube.com/watch?v=B8TDhpYBu0o He, too, says that climate change is a fraud and touts the BBC documentary that tries to give the â€œother side.â€ Tarpley is an old man like me. Jones has children. Does he hate them so much that heâ€™s willing to sacrifice them like Abraham and Isaac?

Think about this quote: 

&quot;If you give a man the correct information for seven years, he may believe the incorrect information on the first day of the eighth year when it is necessary, from your point of view, that he should do so. Your first job is to build the credibility and the authenticity of your propaganda, and persuade the enemy to trust you although you are his enemy.&quot; ~ A Psychological Warfare Casebook - Operations Research Office - Johns Hopkins University (1958)

Once again, we are living in a time of great personal and planetary danger. Because the state has unlimited resources, everyone is suspect. Think of the French resistance. Would they just let in a person because of a declaration of solidarity or wrote a book? Hell no. That was a real instance where wrong decisions meant life and death. Arenâ€™t we in that same situation only on a grander scale? Everyone must be tested. Everyone must prove themselves in our electronic world. We canâ€™t see them face to face and read their body language. Who are our neighbors? We donâ€™t even know them. We can only read symbols on a computer screen and try to determine if that is the â€œTRUTH.â€  Whatever that is. No, Ruppert is not immune to challenges. If it is true that he uses the equivalent ofâ€œSLAPâ€ suits to quiet critics, doesnâ€™t that show that heâ€™s fighting his critics rather than resting on his evidence? Does David Ray Griffin sue his critics over 9/11? Think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: I never said that Ruppert was wrong about peak oil. I said that he shows great inconsistencies. He claims, in spite of all the evidence, that the U.S. will not attack Iran. What? Has he somehow ignored that planetary collapse is well underway? Of course, the Washington Consensus knows the situation better than us, hell, they&#8217;ve got our money to do their research. How can he possibly try to afirm that Gary Webb was able to shoot himself twice in the face, that it happens from time to time when the coroner is supposed to have declared it was from three feet away? Did Webb have arms that dragged on the ground? Military experts, of whom Ruppert is clearly not, have stated that the longer those ships remain in the Gulf, the closer the U.S. military is to attacking Iran. Ruppert claims it wonâ€™t happen. How can he make such an outrageous statement? Jesus, all the experts are telling us that weâ€™re past peak and on the downhill side since November 2005. Of course, theyâ€™re going to attack Iran. Those fat cats in Washington want to continue â€œour way of lifeâ€ to quote Cheney. They are leading us to WWIII or WWIV with China and/or Russia. You choose the number. </p>
<p>Last summer, I attended the Solfest in Hopland. New Society Publishers had a table of their books and carried a copy of Barrie Zwickerâ€™s book â€œTowers of Deception.â€ He has a special chapter dedicated to gatekeepers of the Left titled â€œThe Shame of Noam Chomsky and the Gatekeepers of the Left.â€ Iâ€™d read this book several months before and went though my â€œshock and aweâ€ moment. Now I can say that, after checking out either the distortions or omissions of Goodman and Chomsky since that reading, they are not who them claim to be. Anyhow, a guy was there selling the latest peak oil chart. I mentioned to him that Goodman and Chomsky were gatekeepers, and that he could read about it in  Zwickerâ€™s new book. He flatly refused to check it out and dismissed me as a nutcase. At Survival Acres blog, he clearly describes that kind of behavior as a â€œconsensus trance.â€ <a href="http://survivalacres.com/wordpress/?p=657" rel="nofollow">http://survivalacres.com/wordpress/?p=657</a>  This trance can emerge anywhere. We have to guard against it if we are to be able to see reality with any consistency. </p>
<p>Look, we are heading into the greatest global crisis since the die off of the dinosaurs eons ago. The state has been lying to us forever. We canâ€™t have sacred cows anymore than sacred people. Ruppert is not immune to criticism.  We have Alex Jones who tells us that 9/11 was an inside job, then tells us that peak oil is an oil company hoax and says, â€œIâ€™ve got the documents to prove it.â€ Iâ€™ve check his documents. While Iâ€™m not a lawyer, itâ€™s not hard to see that his â€œevidenceâ€ is worse than a joke. He also tells us that global warming is a fraud. Well, who would both of these arguments benefit? The oil companies. Then thereâ€™s Webster Tarpley. Heâ€™s a darling of the 9/11 movement. What does he say about peak oil? You can see his open lies here in this YouTube video <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=B8TDhpYBu0o" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=B8TDhpYBu0o</a> He, too, says that climate change is a fraud and touts the BBC documentary that tries to give the â€œother side.â€ Tarpley is an old man like me. Jones has children. Does he hate them so much that heâ€™s willing to sacrifice them like Abraham and Isaac?</p>
<p>Think about this quote: </p>
<p>&#8220;If you give a man the correct information for seven years, he may believe the incorrect information on the first day of the eighth year when it is necessary, from your point of view, that he should do so. Your first job is to build the credibility and the authenticity of your propaganda, and persuade the enemy to trust you although you are his enemy.&#8221; ~ A Psychological Warfare Casebook &#8211; Operations Research Office &#8211; Johns Hopkins University (1958)</p>
<p>Once again, we are living in a time of great personal and planetary danger. Because the state has unlimited resources, everyone is suspect. Think of the French resistance. Would they just let in a person because of a declaration of solidarity or wrote a book? Hell no. That was a real instance where wrong decisions meant life and death. Arenâ€™t we in that same situation only on a grander scale? Everyone must be tested. Everyone must prove themselves in our electronic world. We canâ€™t see them face to face and read their body language. Who are our neighbors? We donâ€™t even know them. We can only read symbols on a computer screen and try to determine if that is the â€œTRUTH.â€  Whatever that is. No, Ruppert is not immune to challenges. If it is true that he uses the equivalent ofâ€œSLAPâ€ suits to quiet critics, doesnâ€™t that show that heâ€™s fighting his critics rather than resting on his evidence? Does David Ray Griffin sue his critics over 9/11? Think about it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8479</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8479</guid>
		<description>@ p

Sure, anyone can try to insert anything in open source projects. And the leaders of the project may become agents of the state. Sure.

And look what the result was.

The nonsense was outed because the code was public.

Anyone can look at it as say, &quot;WTF is this?&quot; And they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ p</p>
<p>Sure, anyone can try to insert anything in open source projects. And the leaders of the project may become agents of the state. Sure.</p>
<p>And look what the result was.</p>
<p>The nonsense was outed because the code was public.</p>
<p>Anyone can look at it as say, &#8220;WTF is this?&#8221; And they did.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: p</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8471</link>
		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8471</guid>
		<description>Kevin: ok, to a degree you&#039;re right, but consider the case of JAP:
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/6779

Despite good intentions (I believe), the creators had a court order against them to insert a backdoor in their anonymizing software.

They did things like CLEARLY point it out in the source for those who cared enough to look, and the flaw was discovered soon, but open-source projects are still vulnerable to such things. There are also attacks that for instance get the devs&#039; compiler to insert a backdoor. 

Now, this backdoor was discovered ONLY because the project was open-source. OS projects can be compromised, but it is harder to do so, and the breach has the chance to be discovered. The big point here is that in closed-source security software, the users would have no such opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: ok, to a degree you&#8217;re right, but consider the case of JAP:<br />
<a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/news/6779" rel="nofollow">http://www.securityfocus.com/news/6779</a></p>
<p>Despite good intentions (I believe), the creators had a court order against them to insert a backdoor in their anonymizing software.</p>
<p>They did things like CLEARLY point it out in the source for those who cared enough to look, and the flaw was discovered soon, but open-source projects are still vulnerable to such things. There are also attacks that for instance get the devs&#8217; compiler to insert a backdoor. </p>
<p>Now, this backdoor was discovered ONLY because the project was open-source. OS projects can be compromised, but it is harder to do so, and the breach has the chance to be discovered. The big point here is that in closed-source security software, the users would have no such opportunity.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8456</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8456</guid>
		<description>@fallout11

How can an open source project like Wordpress be in league with the CIA? Do all the developers just agree to ignore the &quot;cia&quot; code?

HAHA Man, there is some stupid shit posted in these comments sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fallout11</p>
<p>How can an open source project like Wordpress be in league with the CIA? Do all the developers just agree to ignore the &#8220;cia&#8221; code?</p>
<p>HAHA Man, there is some stupid shit posted in these comments sometimes.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bkmn</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=814&#038;cpage=1#comment-8455</link>
		<dc:creator>bkmn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 02:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cryptogon.com/?p=814#comment-8455</guid>
		<description>Flamewars 2007...

I think the 3rd parties here (bob m &amp; fallout11, esp.) have it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flamewars 2007&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the 3rd parties here (bob m &amp; fallout11, esp.) have it right.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
