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	<title>Comments on: AIG: It&#8217;s Not the Bonuses. It&#8217;s That AIG&#8217;s Counterparties Are Getting Paid Back in Full</title>
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		<title>By: tochigi</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=7570&#038;cpage=1#comment-15892</link>
		<dc:creator>tochigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the link looks like it got mangled...let&#039;s try again:

http://www.counterpunch.org/hudson03182009.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the link looks like it got mangled&#8230;let&#8217;s try again:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/hudson03182009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/hudson03182009.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: tochigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tochigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&gt;Michael Hudson comments:&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Here?s the problem with all the hoopla over the $135 million in AIG bonuses: This sum is only less than 0.1 per cent ? one thousandth ? of the $183 BILLION that the U.S. Treasury gave to AIG as a ?pass-through? to its counterparties. This sum, over a thousand times the magnitude of the bonuses on which public attention is conveniently being focused by Wall Street promoters, did not stay with AIG. For over six months, the public media and Congressmen have been trying to find out just where this money DID go. Bloomberg brought a lawsuit to find out. Only to be met with a wall of silence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

the rest of the article is a reasonable analysis, as far as it goes. worth a read, imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a>&gt;Michael Hudson comments:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Here?s the problem with all the hoopla over the $135 million in AIG bonuses: This sum is only less than 0.1 per cent ? one thousandth ? of the $183 BILLION that the U.S. Treasury gave to AIG as a ?pass-through? to its counterparties. This sum, over a thousand times the magnitude of the bonuses on which public attention is conveniently being focused by Wall Street promoters, did not stay with AIG. For over six months, the public media and Congressmen have been trying to find out just where this money DID go. Bloomberg brought a lawsuit to find out. Only to be met with a wall of silence.</p></blockquote>
<p>the rest of the article is a reasonable analysis, as far as it goes. worth a read, imho.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=7570&#038;cpage=1#comment-15890</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I guess Spitzer was a target of AIG. (scroll down in article).
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/business/26insure.html?_r=1&amp;emc=eta1
 This takes the cake.
Providing bail out money to AIG - who is associated with a reinsurer that cooked its books!
 Scuse me while I pull on my waders. The shit is getting deeper and deeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I guess Spitzer was a target of AIG. (scroll down in article).<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/business/26insure.html?_r=1&amp;emc=eta1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02.....p;emc=eta1</a><br />
 This takes the cake.<br />
Providing bail out money to AIG &#8211; who is associated with a reinsurer that cooked its books!<br />
 Scuse me while I pull on my waders. The shit is getting deeper and deeper.</p>
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		<title>By: tochigi</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=7570&#038;cpage=1#comment-15889</link>
		<dc:creator>tochigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What did Goldman, and all the other counterparties, know about AIG&#039;s financial condition at the time they executed the swaps or other contracts? Had they done adequate due diligence to see whether they were buying real protection? And why shouldn&#039;t they bear a percentage of the risk of failure of their own counterparty?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

obviously, counterparty failure is not a risk when you are GS. you just call up the Fed and Treasury Dept. bosses and tell them to cover it. no problem.

what i am more intersted in is the structure and basis of the payouts. what were the bets made on? what money did the gamblers put down? what ROI does the payout represent? really, this is a scam in Madoff proportions (x100). HA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What did Goldman, and all the other counterparties, know about AIG&#8217;s financial condition at the time they executed the swaps or other contracts? Had they done adequate due diligence to see whether they were buying real protection? And why shouldn&#8217;t they bear a percentage of the risk of failure of their own counterparty?</p></blockquote>
<p>obviously, counterparty failure is not a risk when you are GS. you just call up the Fed and Treasury Dept. bosses and tell them to cover it. no problem.</p>
<p>what i am more intersted in is the structure and basis of the payouts. what were the bets made on? what money did the gamblers put down? what ROI does the payout represent? really, this is a scam in Madoff proportions (x100). HA!</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=7570&#038;cpage=1#comment-15888</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome. Elliot Spitzer speaks! Methinks Geithner has some &#039;splaining to do. Spitzer got the boot shoved up his butt and was defamed, most likely by this same gang of crooks and liars that cooked up this inside job.

Spitzer should be Treasury Secretary. We need a &quot;cop&quot; like him. Someone that knows the insides and outs of all these banking scams in charge of that den of iniquity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Elliot Spitzer speaks! Methinks Geithner has some &#8217;splaining to do. Spitzer got the boot shoved up his butt and was defamed, most likely by this same gang of crooks and liars that cooked up this inside job.</p>
<p>Spitzer should be Treasury Secretary. We need a &#8220;cop&#8221; like him. Someone that knows the insides and outs of all these banking scams in charge of that den of iniquity.</p>
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