Comments on: U.S. GOVERNMENT SEIZES E-GOLD ACCOUNTS, OWNERS INDICTED http://cryptogon.com/?p=670 news - analysis - conspiracies Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:25:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-8058 Anonymous Fri, 25 May 2007 15:58:33 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-8058 Who benefits, indeed. If you can force others to accept worthless paper as legal tender in payment of debt, then they are effectively your slaves. If you are forced to trade your labor and property for worthless bank notes, then YOU are a slave. This is precisely the situation in the U.S.A. — the citizens have been enslaved by a cabal of bankers. The dark ones who now control the American Federal Empire cannot tolerate the existence of real, constitutional gold & silver money because THIS CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT'S FIAT MONEY IS THE SOURCE OF ITS POWER. The A.F.E. will naturally attempt to destroy any currency of intrinsic value, because genuine wealth in the hands of the public represents an obstacle to world domination -- a barrier to the aristocracy's control of the planet's resources. I appreciate what eGold is trying to do: after all, you are not free because you say so, you are free when you PRACTICE it. If you don't even TRY to practice it, then it is surely lost... but they should know by now that the "Democrats" and "Republicans" will not rest until ALL privacy & due process rights have been completely eliminated. It is not safe to use lawful, constitutional money in the United States anymore. This has been the case for a long time. The number of illegal seizures and forfeitures are legion, but these are rarely reported by the corporate news syndicates, lest it alarm the people. As for "money laundering," the highest government officials are persecuting others for what they are doing themselves. The awful truth is that thousands of billions of dollars have "gone missing" from administrative government accounts. About 3 of every 4 U.S. federal agencies cannot pass an audit. Bribes and no-bid contracts with kickbacks are standard procedure. Even 9/11 was a massive insider-trading & insurance scam. Financially speaking, the entire government has become a fraud; a hoax; a criminal enterprise of unimaginable proportions which relies on deception and intimidation. It is the most ridiculous of hypocrisies for this regime to charge anyone else with financial crimes. When that occurs, it is typically for undisclosed political reasons. Likewise, if they cannot destroy the eGold concept, they will try to make sure it never becomes a safe, reliable mode of business transaction for the masses. Who benefits, indeed. If you can force others to accept worthless paper as legal tender in payment of debt, then they are effectively your slaves. If you are forced to trade your labor and property for worthless bank notes, then YOU are a slave. This is precisely the situation in the U.S.A. — the citizens have been enslaved by a cabal of bankers. The dark ones who now control the American Federal Empire cannot tolerate the existence of real, constitutional gold & silver money because THIS CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT’S FIAT MONEY IS THE SOURCE OF ITS POWER. The A.F.E. will naturally attempt to destroy any currency of intrinsic value, because genuine wealth in the hands of the public represents an obstacle to world domination — a barrier to the aristocracy’s control of the planet’s resources. I appreciate what eGold is trying to do: after all, you are not free because you say so, you are free when you PRACTICE it. If you don’t even TRY to practice it, then it is surely lost… but they should know by now that the “Democrats” and “Republicans” will not rest until ALL privacy & due process rights have been completely eliminated. It is not safe to use lawful, constitutional money in the United States anymore. This has been the case for a long time. The number of illegal seizures and forfeitures are legion, but these are rarely reported by the corporate news syndicates, lest it alarm the people.

As for “money laundering,” the highest government officials are persecuting others for what they are doing themselves. The awful truth is that thousands of billions of dollars have “gone missing” from administrative government accounts. About 3 of every 4 U.S. federal agencies cannot pass an audit. Bribes and no-bid contracts with kickbacks are standard procedure. Even 9/11 was a massive insider-trading & insurance scam. Financially speaking, the entire government has become a fraud; a hoax; a criminal enterprise of unimaginable proportions which relies on deception and intimidation. It is the most ridiculous of hypocrisies for this regime to charge anyone else with financial crimes. When that occurs, it is typically for undisclosed political reasons. Likewise, if they cannot destroy the eGold concept, they will try to make sure it never becomes a safe, reliable mode of business transaction for the masses.

]]> By: Dennis Spain http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7719 Dennis Spain Sun, 13 May 2007 02:42:48 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7719 The government doesn't like it when free men decide to keep their wealth in a form that cannot be regulated, taxed, and controlled by the government's money 'experts', or in a form independent of the government regulated fiat banking system. The behemoth that has arisen linking governments and money creation through central banks is the greatest enduring threat to mankind at the present time. This despicable control of the medium of exchange makes all of us slaves to a murky system that seems to have a life of its own. Cui bono? Cui bono? The government doesn’t like it when free men decide to keep their wealth in a form that cannot be regulated, taxed, and controlled by the government’s money ‘experts’, or in a form independent of the government regulated fiat banking system. The behemoth that has arisen linking governments and money creation through central banks is the greatest enduring threat to mankind at the present time. This despicable control of the medium of exchange makes all of us slaves to a murky system that seems to have a life of its own. Cui bono? Cui bono?

]]> By: Kevin http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7660 Kevin Thu, 10 May 2007 23:28:34 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7660 @laboratorian-at-work I think you've got it backwards: I explicitly tell people to keep their gold under their physical control. http://cryptogon.com/?p=588 Keeping gold coins in a safe deposit box isn't an option. What if the government decides that you're a criminal and decides to take the contents of your safe deposit box? Woops. U.S. banks are just extensions of the government now. @laboratorian-at-work

I think you’ve got it backwards:

I explicitly tell people to keep their gold under their physical control.

http://cryptogon.com/?p=588

Keeping gold coins in a safe deposit box isn’t an option. What if the government decides that you’re a criminal and decides to take the contents of your safe deposit box? Woops. U.S. banks are just extensions of the government now.

]]> By: laboratorian-at-work http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7655 laboratorian-at-work Thu, 10 May 2007 21:18:18 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7655 @MOD Why is holding gold personally a bad idea? I really doubt the gov't will ever have the werewithal to move house-to-house siezing gold from every schmuck with a couple ounces in a safe. I am long GLD because I don't want wealth lying around my not-exactly-robbery-proof apartment, but recognize that this is the equivalent of having gold certificates in monopoly money. @MOD

Why is holding gold personally a bad idea? I really doubt the gov’t will ever have the werewithal to move house-to-house siezing gold from every schmuck with a couple ounces in a safe. I am long GLD because I don’t want wealth lying around my not-exactly-robbery-proof apartment, but recognize that this is the equivalent of having gold certificates in monopoly money.

]]> By: watcher of events http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7635 watcher of events Wed, 09 May 2007 21:57:47 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7635 <strong>// MOD This would be the most stupid of all possible options. Since I'm not filtering out stupid comments, just the ones that are off topic, I must warn readers to NOT follow this advice, as it couldn't be any worse than this. -Kevin</strong> It would seem best to hold the gold and place it in a safe deposit box rather than allow another to do so for you. // MOD This would be the most stupid of all possible options. Since I’m not filtering out stupid comments, just the ones that are off topic, I must warn readers to NOT follow this advice, as it couldn’t be any worse than this. -Kevin

It would seem best to hold the gold and place it in a safe deposit box rather than allow another to do so for you.

]]> By: william.jhon http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7539 william.jhon Fri, 04 May 2007 22:07:53 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7539 very sad incident but i m very sure egold will come out from this indictment because its not very first time govt did this. Mr Jackson now u should move to other country and leave this country where no rules and regulations are. BAD Bush policies are creating problems for americans day by day. very sad incident but i m very sure egold will come out from this indictment because its not very first time govt did this.

Mr Jackson now u should move to other country and leave this country where no rules and regulations are.

BAD Bush policies are creating problems for americans day by day.

]]> By: Eileen http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7459 Eileen Wed, 02 May 2007 05:37:06 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7459 http://www.e-gold.com/letter3.html http://www.e-gold.com/letter3.html

]]> By: Eileen http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7430 Eileen Tue, 01 May 2007 13:46:09 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7430 More on this illegal shutdown: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/04/egold_owner_cal.html More on this illegal shutdown:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok.....r_cal.html

]]> By: bob m http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7423 bob m Tue, 01 May 2007 00:28:28 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7423 they can hold the accounts/assets indefinitely. look for a 'form' to be released in about 6-12 months with a background check and potential disbursement in parts beginning 2009-2010 when many will have walked away. they can hold the accounts/assets indefinitely. look for a ‘form’ to be released in about 6-12 months with a background check and potential disbursement in parts beginning 2009-2010 when many will have walked away.

]]> By: ctg http://cryptogon.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-7404 ctg Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:19:03 +0000 http://cryptogon.com/?p=670#comment-7404 So, if you are non-US citizen using E-Gold account, does it mean that the US government can fuck you over and get your savings? So, if you are non-US citizen using E-Gold account, does it mean that the US government can fuck you over and get your savings?

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