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		<title>By: cryptogon.com &#187; Archives &#187; The New PSYOP Payload: Bird Flu and the Collapse of the Internet</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptogon.com &#187; Archives &#187; The New PSYOP Payload: Bird Flu and the Collapse of the Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] paying attention to the fallout from the incident involving the root DNS nodes. In the course of following that story, I came across the Strong Angel III operation, which [...]</description>
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		<title>By: blahblahblah</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=340&#038;cpage=1#comment-2166</link>
		<dc:creator>blahblahblah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. The terrorists don&#039;t attack IT or don&#039;t successfully attack IT because they are stupid. Legally, philosophically and morally they&#039;re stuck in the Dark Ages, at best around about where England was in the 15th century AD. 

Some of them might have script kiddies who point shitty Ping O&#039;Death attacks at Isreal, but that&#039;s about it. Their use of Internet is mostly for propaganda purposes, everything is all symbolic and stuff. They see technology in a completely different way to us; for example one of the rumours going around among Iraqi civilians is that US bases are protected by invisible force fields. 

We&#039;re like HG Wells martians to them; the most they can hope to do is co-opt our technology, not agressively destroy it. They&#039;d have to be too much like us to do that.

Good essay though! Have you ever read any Debord? 
He wrote something with similar implications waaay back in 1988 - the cold war is over, the spooks, terrorists and gangsters are now running the planet:

http://www.notbored.org/commentaires.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. The terrorists don&#8217;t attack IT or don&#8217;t successfully attack IT because they are stupid. Legally, philosophically and morally they&#8217;re stuck in the Dark Ages, at best around about where England was in the 15th century AD. </p>
<p>Some of them might have script kiddies who point shitty Ping O&#8217;Death attacks at Isreal, but that&#8217;s about it. Their use of Internet is mostly for propaganda purposes, everything is all symbolic and stuff. They see technology in a completely different way to us; for example one of the rumours going around among Iraqi civilians is that US bases are protected by invisible force fields. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re like HG Wells martians to them; the most they can hope to do is co-opt our technology, not agressively destroy it. They&#8217;d have to be too much like us to do that.</p>
<p>Good essay though! Have you ever read any Debord?<br />
He wrote something with similar implications waaay back in 1988 &#8211; the cold war is over, the spooks, terrorists and gangsters are now running the planet:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.notbored.org/commentaires.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.notbored.org/commentaires.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Survival Acres Blog &#187; Internet Shutdown</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=340&#038;cpage=1#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>Survival Acres Blog &#187; Internet Shutdown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as Cryptogon points out, the Net could be taken down completely.Â  That&#8217;s bad news for everyone, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cryptogon.com &#187; Archives &#187; Strong Angel III</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=340&#038;cpage=1#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator>cryptogon.com &#187; Archives &#187; Strong Angel III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if I could find any indication of the military response to the events of a couple of days ago, re: the operations involving the root DNS nodes. There is, without a doubt, a military response. Of course, who actually did the thing vs. who gets [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=340&#038;cpage=1#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Kevin, I posted my previous comment before I read your whole post above.
I was unable to access my credit union on line yesterday (now I know why). 
Made me realize how very vulnerable and fragile an electronic life can be. Perhaps there exists a Shallow Hal, doo-doo nerdgeek - fed or contractor - getting some of those billions from Iraq to bring the whole thing down. Howz that big fat pizza boyz? Pop that zit!!! FUN!
 I learned today the it is &quot;the LAW&quot; that every federal agency have a Continuity of Operations plan (since 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina).  I am inspired to suggest you write a protocol and/or manual for what we should do to ensure The Continuity of Operations for the Internet should such a false flag attack occur. Actually that would be a crisis manual.  Write it in a codebook for those who contribute to Cryptogon and Farmlet so that we can say ( to each other electronically)  after each bullet below, they tried, but them suckers but did not:

1) End the criticism of the regime.
2) Cut off people like us from real information.
3) Cut off people like us from communicating with each other.
4) People, rendered helpless, jobless, Walmartless, etc, would beg for the government to save them.
5) Anyone who dares speak out against the government would probably be killed by a mob of troglodytes.
6) Oh yeah, the theft of trillions of dollars? What are these trillions of dollars you speak of, Senator? Who? Where?
IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-

One last point, continuity of operations in the U.S. fed ranges from code 1 to 4.
Code 1 = 2 hours to bring it on at a new location; Code 4= you&#039;ve got 12 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Kevin, I posted my previous comment before I read your whole post above.<br />
I was unable to access my credit union on line yesterday (now I know why).<br />
Made me realize how very vulnerable and fragile an electronic life can be. Perhaps there exists a Shallow Hal, doo-doo nerdgeek &#8211; fed or contractor &#8211; getting some of those billions from Iraq to bring the whole thing down. Howz that big fat pizza boyz? Pop that zit!!! FUN!<br />
 I learned today the it is &#8220;the LAW&#8221; that every federal agency have a Continuity of Operations plan (since 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina).  I am inspired to suggest you write a protocol and/or manual for what we should do to ensure The Continuity of Operations for the Internet should such a false flag attack occur. Actually that would be a crisis manual.  Write it in a codebook for those who contribute to Cryptogon and Farmlet so that we can say ( to each other electronically)  after each bullet below, they tried, but them suckers but did not:</p>
<p>1) End the criticism of the regime.<br />
2) Cut off people like us from real information.<br />
3) Cut off people like us from communicating with each other.<br />
4) People, rendered helpless, jobless, Walmartless, etc, would beg for the government to save them.<br />
5) Anyone who dares speak out against the government would probably be killed by a mob of troglodytes.<br />
6) Oh yeah, the theft of trillions of dollars? What are these trillions of dollars you speak of, Senator? Who? Where?<br />
IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-</p>
<p>One last point, continuity of operations in the U.S. fed ranges from code 1 to 4.<br />
Code 1 = 2 hours to bring it on at a new location; Code 4= you&#8217;ve got 12 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: tsoldrin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=340&#038;cpage=1#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator>tsoldrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be seriously surprised if the root name servers had not been compromised long ago and perhaps this will expose that (or perhaps not).  They have been vulnerable since the late 80&#039;s.  It is the ultimate hack after all.  Control of those machines would allow you to re-route any traffic through a snooping gateway and snarf any and all packets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be seriously surprised if the root name servers had not been compromised long ago and perhaps this will expose that (or perhaps not).  They have been vulnerable since the late 80&#8217;s.  It is the ultimate hack after all.  Control of those machines would allow you to re-route any traffic through a snooping gateway and snarf any and all packets.</p>
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		<title>By: PeakEngineer</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=340&#038;cpage=1#comment-2068</link>
		<dc:creator>PeakEngineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally, I had heard nothing about the attack before reading it here (funny - I posted a rant about this sort of thing just today).  I have to say, that&#039;s pretty strong evidence for your theory -- one more piece of a very big puzzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally, I had heard nothing about the attack before reading it here (funny &#8211; I posted a rant about this sort of thing just today).  I have to say, that&#8217;s pretty strong evidence for your theory &#8212; one more piece of a very big puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=340&#038;cpage=1#comment-2066</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn good call Kevin; I donâ€™t think Their Agents would be shock testing if they didnâ€™t plan to attack in the not-so-distant future.

But hereâ€™s what I canâ€™t figure out:  the logic or timing of the many-fronted collapsesâ€¦Iâ€™m going to take a shot at it:

First, I will assume these varied collapses ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT occur simultaneously; the disorder would be uncontrollable.

A.  Chrono Logic of Collapses:

1.	Public IT System Collapse; Private IT System Secretly Remains Active (I know nothing about IT systems/networks, but I understand behavior, energy and systems; I assume private IT systems/networks exist that would allow Them to keep communicating while Their Agents are destroying public IT systems/networks and/or their infrastructure.  Is this true??  If not, how will they maintain the short-term information flows necessary to allow them to allocate resources during these collapses in a manner that will lead to more control over larger and larger amounts of resources in the medium to long term??)  leading to a
2.	Financial System Collapse followed by an
3.	Economic System Collapse, first national, then international, leading to a
4.	Political System Collapse, again, national first, then international (Old political systems will be immediately replaced with New, Dictatorial systems),
5.	Current and Very-Near Future Military Posturing/Engagements (Iran) begat an international military engagement (WWIII);  after The Final War, weâ€™ll experience
6.	Health and Environmental System Collapses, taking the form of synthetic, human-engineered natural disasters and plagues.

B.  Very Speculative Collapse Time Frame (This is where it gets good!):  Major collapses should begin no earlier than Jan. 1, 2008, with virus plagues to begin no later than May 2009; hereâ€™s my scant evidence:


1.  http://www.dod.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2008/budget_justification/pdfs/procurement/Vol_1_Miscl/DISA.pdf

Title:  DEFENSE INFORMATION SYSTEMS AGENCY (DISA) FY 2008-2009 Budget Estimates  (See page 48 [Crisis Management System]; Itâ€™s pretty self-explanatory and very revelatory!).

Also See:  http://www.fcw.com/article97585-02-06-07-Web

2.  http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2225.html

Title: Frequently Asked Questions about the New Travel Document Requirements (FAQs)

â€œThe Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) will require all travelers to and from Canada, Mexico.â€¦It is anticipated that on January 1, 2008, U.S. citizens traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or seaâ€¦.â€

The plebes will not be allowed to exit the Homeland.

3.   http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/03/AR2007020301120_pf.html

Title:  In Drill, CDC Practices For Influenza Pandemic

I seriously doubt a CDC exercise of this magnitude would not be followed by an attack within 2 years.

4.  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&amp;sid=a_exlgAKUAY8&amp;refer=exclusive

Title:  Pimco&#039;s Hurricane Yields Drive Wall Street Into Insurance Bonds

â€œSwiss Reinsurance Co., the world&#039;s largest reinsurer, estimates the market for insurance-linked securities, which includes everything from Triple-X and bird flu bonds to so-called sidecars, will grow to $350 billion in a decade after more than quadrupling to $27 billion in the past five yearsâ€¦.â€

Please critique!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn good call Kevin; I donâ€™t think Their Agents would be shock testing if they didnâ€™t plan to attack in the not-so-distant future.</p>
<p>But hereâ€™s what I canâ€™t figure out:  the logic or timing of the many-fronted collapsesâ€¦Iâ€™m going to take a shot at it:</p>
<p>First, I will assume these varied collapses ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT occur simultaneously; the disorder would be uncontrollable.</p>
<p>A.  Chrono Logic of Collapses:</p>
<p>1.	Public IT System Collapse; Private IT System Secretly Remains Active (I know nothing about IT systems/networks, but I understand behavior, energy and systems; I assume private IT systems/networks exist that would allow Them to keep communicating while Their Agents are destroying public IT systems/networks and/or their infrastructure.  Is this true??  If not, how will they maintain the short-term information flows necessary to allow them to allocate resources during these collapses in a manner that will lead to more control over larger and larger amounts of resources in the medium to long term??)  leading to a<br />
2.	Financial System Collapse followed by an<br />
3.	Economic System Collapse, first national, then international, leading to a<br />
4.	Political System Collapse, again, national first, then international (Old political systems will be immediately replaced with New, Dictatorial systems),<br />
5.	Current and Very-Near Future Military Posturing/Engagements (Iran) begat an international military engagement (WWIII);  after The Final War, weâ€™ll experience<br />
6.	Health and Environmental System Collapses, taking the form of synthetic, human-engineered natural disasters and plagues.</p>
<p>B.  Very Speculative Collapse Time Frame (This is where it gets good!):  Major collapses should begin no earlier than Jan. 1, 2008, with virus plagues to begin no later than May 2009; hereâ€™s my scant evidence:</p>
<p>1.  <a href="http://www.dod.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2008/budget_justification/pdfs/procurement/Vol_1_Miscl/DISA.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dod.mil/comptroller.....l/DISA.pdf</a></p>
<p>Title:  DEFENSE INFORMATION SYSTEMS AGENCY (DISA) FY 2008-2009 Budget Estimates  (See page 48 [Crisis Management System]; Itâ€™s pretty self-explanatory and very revelatory!).</p>
<p>Also See:  <a href="http://www.fcw.com/article97585-02-06-07-Web" rel="nofollow">http://www.fcw.com/article97585-02-06-07-Web</a></p>
<p>2.  <a href="http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2225.html" rel="nofollow">http://travel.state.gov/travel....._2225.html</a></p>
<p>Title: Frequently Asked Questions about the New Travel Document Requirements (FAQs)</p>
<p>â€œThe Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) will require all travelers to and from Canada, Mexico.â€¦It is anticipated that on January 1, 2008, U.S. citizens traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or seaâ€¦.â€</p>
<p>The plebes will not be allowed to exit the Homeland.</p>
<p>3.   <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/03/AR2007020301120_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....20_pf.html</a></p>
<p>Title:  In Drill, CDC Practices For Influenza Pandemic</p>
<p>I seriously doubt a CDC exercise of this magnitude would not be followed by an attack within 2 years.</p>
<p>4.  <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&amp;sid=a_exlgAKUAY8&amp;refer=exclusive" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....=exclusive</a></p>
<p>Title:  Pimco&#8217;s Hurricane Yields Drive Wall Street Into Insurance Bonds</p>
<p>â€œSwiss Reinsurance Co., the world&#8217;s largest reinsurer, estimates the market for insurance-linked securities, which includes everything from Triple-X and bird flu bonds to so-called sidecars, will grow to $350 billion in a decade after more than quadrupling to $27 billion in the past five yearsâ€¦.â€</p>
<p>Please critique!</p>
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		<title>By: smith</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=340&#038;cpage=1#comment-2050</link>
		<dc:creator>smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related link from the Internet Storm Center
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<a href="http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2184" rel="nofollow">http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2184</a></p>
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