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	<title>Comments on: EMERGENCY: U.S. GOVERNMENT TO TAKE &#8220;UNLIMITED STAKES&#8221; IN FANNIE AND FREDDIE</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2909&#038;cpage=1#comment-13498</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;would it necessarily get reported on the front page of the WSJ?

I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re joking, but, yes, it would be reported on the front page of the WSJ and just about everywhere else. It wouldn&#039;t just be &quot;business&quot; news. There are about 200 auctions per year. We&#039;d know pretty fast if the Treasury was having trouble finding greater fools to keep funding this circus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>>would it necessarily get reported on the front page of the WSJ?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re joking, but, yes, it would be reported on the front page of the WSJ and just about everywhere else. It wouldn&#8217;t just be &#8220;business&#8221; news. There are about 200 auctions per year. We&#8217;d know pretty fast if the Treasury was having trouble finding greater fools to keep funding this circus.</p>
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		<title>By: thucydides</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2909&#038;cpage=1#comment-13496</link>
		<dc:creator>thucydides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the best observable indicator that the US can no longer sell its paper?  I mean, depending on how it shakes out, would it necessarily get reported on the front page of the WSJ? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the best observable indicator that the US can no longer sell its paper?  I mean, depending on how it shakes out, would it necessarily get reported on the front page of the WSJ? <img src='http://cryptogon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2909&#038;cpage=1#comment-13494</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m betting against the dollar in a variety of ways. I hold NZ dollars, gold and UDN. Compared to my cash and gold holdings, my UDN position is small.

&gt;&gt;&gt;Seems like if the banking system collapses these securities will be worthless.

HA. Fine. What would my gold be worth then? A lot.

People who have been predicting the end of the world have been wrong for thousands of years. Somehow, the horror show grinds on. Based on that, I&#039;m willing to dabble around with a small portion of my capital in things like UDN.

It&#039;s pretty clear that the Fed is more interested in selling out the dollar over time than letting the whole thing come crashing down all at once. They could have just let Freddie and Fannie fail, which would have resulted in soldiers on the streets, martial law, overt collapse, etc. But they didn&#039;t. And, for whatever reason, the Asians and a few others continue to buy U.S. debt.

When the U.S. paper auctions fail, that will indicate that we&#039;re into a very different---much more dire---phase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m betting against the dollar in a variety of ways. I hold NZ dollars, gold and UDN. Compared to my cash and gold holdings, my UDN position is small.</p>
<p>>>>Seems like if the banking system collapses these securities will be worthless.</p>
<p>HA. Fine. What would my gold be worth then? A lot.</p>
<p>People who have been predicting the end of the world have been wrong for thousands of years. Somehow, the horror show grinds on. Based on that, I&#8217;m willing to dabble around with a small portion of my capital in things like UDN.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty clear that the Fed is more interested in selling out the dollar over time than letting the whole thing come crashing down all at once. They could have just let Freddie and Fannie fail, which would have resulted in soldiers on the streets, martial law, overt collapse, etc. But they didn&#8217;t. And, for whatever reason, the Asians and a few others continue to buy U.S. debt.</p>
<p>When the U.S. paper auctions fail, that will indicate that we&#8217;re into a very different&#8212;much more dire&#8212;phase.</p>
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		<title>By: OUTSLAW</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2909&#038;cpage=1#comment-13493</link>
		<dc:creator>OUTSLAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, are you still betting against the dollar using FXF and UDN? Seems like if the banking system collapses these securities will be worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, are you still betting against the dollar using FXF and UDN? Seems like if the banking system collapses these securities will be worthless.</p>
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