Well, I’m ready for this particular incarnation to be over. I kinda ran it into the ground in my 20’s anyway. That said, I have enough food put away for a momentary supply blip of a week or two. (I’ll probably have to share it with my very thick-skulled older brother who never, ever listens and probably really couldn’t do so to literally save his life.) If I end up going hungry and starving to death, I want the cause of it to be the full end of “normalcy” as we know it and not some piddly-shit brief interruption.

Sharon:

I guess I don’t think that deeply about astrological aspects, I guess. I just see something interesting coming and think, “Oh, that’s going to be interesting.” And it should be really interesting for me because Uranus/ Saturn will be hitting my natal Venus in Gemini.

I was looking through the online ephemerides at:

http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm?lang=f

The last time we had a Saturn/Uranus opposition was 1964 through 1967. Plus Pluto was conjunct Uranus and/or square Saturn during those years.

For those who weren’t around at the time, those were the years of greatest activity in the Civil Rights and anti-war movements. The Watts and Detroit riots were in 1965, and the Newark riots in 1967. And, for those who remember, 1967 was “the summer of love.”

Those years marked a “sea change.”

So we have a similar Saturn/Uranus opposition in 2008–looks like it’s exact in early November. Pluto in Sag involvement is loose, 10 degrees out of square with either planet. The opposition is exact again in February 2009 and September 2009. Saturn comes into a square with Pluto in December, 2009.

By 2010, Saturn and Uranus are again in opposition, and the Pluto square has become much more exact–in August, 2010, Saturn and Uranus are in an exact opposition, and Pluto is only 3 degrees from an exact square to both planets.

If I were going to try to interpret these transits, I would say that things will really begin to get ugly in November of this year–looks like right before the election.

In 2009, we’ll begin to see real, serious economic problems manifest. The issues through 2009 will be jobs (Virgo) and oil (Pisces). Also health care (Virgo) and water (Pisces).

By the time Pluto comes into square in August, 2010, the signs involved will be Aries, Libra, and Capricorn.

So, what do you make of the August, 2010, aspects, Loveandlight?

These are all cardinal signs–very proactive–and relate to social structures, and the desire for independence versus cooperation–war versus peace–and social class issues.

The last time we had Pluto in Capricorn was in the 1770s, when it received an exact square from Saturn in Libra in November, 1776, when there were significant battles of the Revolutionary War.

There’s a Saturn/Uranus opposition in January, 1783, right before the Revolutionary War officially ended in April, 1783. Looks like the war was more or less over in January, 1783.

The alignments in August, 2010 look explosive to me. They are very similar to alignments in the late 60s. Up until 2010, Virgo and Pisces are involved, as in the 60s–and then in 2010, the signs involved are Libra, Aries, and Capricorn.

So I am thinking that the focus changes in 2010.

Loveandlight, maybe you could look a the ephemerides link above and tell me what you think. I’m very curious.

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P.S. “Panic” in any circumstance is best avoided, so, win-win, yes yes?

Jack-Booted EULA

i was originally thinking about the US elections (sic) and the Beijing Olympic Games (sic) as trigger events, as well as 2008 seeming a likely crunch year for crude oil supply/demand.

but hte food crisis along with the real estate bubble and financial meltdown are well and truly in the mix now. and as Kevin points out, food is the one with the most immediately severe implications.

i’ve started to think about brain washing and mind control a bit in the last few months. it is quite impressive, the level of utter dislocation from the realities of the planet and life’s necessities. and i am not talking about people lacking education (sic) or life experience. the refusal to see and the selective filtering out of information that is beyond the pale in terms of “business as usual” and “how life has been and will be” is truly breathtaking in its absoluteness.

Kevin is right.
i need to execute a plan to store food and grow my own food, now.
The time left in which to get properly organized can now be counted in months rather than years. i can see that. just don’t say it too loudly, or the men in white coats will come to take you away for your own protection.