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	<title>Comments on: MTV Holocaust Commercials</title>
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		<title>By: shoe2one</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2177&#038;cpage=1#comment-12411</link>
		<dc:creator>shoe2one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I forgot to add I&#039;m with Jason: 

I believe Systematic Desensitization is the correct term here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I forgot to add I&#8217;m with Jason: </p>
<p>I believe Systematic Desensitization is the correct term here.</p>
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		<title>By: shoe2one</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2177&#038;cpage=1#comment-12410</link>
		<dc:creator>shoe2one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan Maxwell - The Holocaust is a Sacrificial Burnt Offering

http://www.archive.org/details/JordanMaxwellJordanMaxwellAudioArchiveswwwgeociitiescomariainvictus</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/JordanMaxwellJordanMaxwellAudioArchiveswwwgeociitiescomariainvictus" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/details.....iainvictus</a></p>
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		<title>By: gbell</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2177&#038;cpage=1#comment-12402</link>
		<dc:creator>gbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh... aren&#039;t they just bring the holocaust back to life to make sure we don&#039;t forget about it?  putting it in modern settings helps make it feel real, and makes sure the lessons aren&#039;t forgotten.

i think you guys have been reading cryptogon too much :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh&#8230; aren&#8217;t they just bring the holocaust back to life to make sure we don&#8217;t forget about it?  putting it in modern settings helps make it feel real, and makes sure the lessons aren&#8217;t forgotten.</p>
<p>i think you guys have been reading cryptogon too much <img src='http://cryptogon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2177&#038;cpage=1#comment-12398</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Systematic Desensitization is the correct term here. 

&quot;The goal of Systematic Desensitization is to overcome this avoidance pattern by gradually exposing patients to the phobic object until it can be tolerated.&quot;

Apologies for quoting Wikipedia.

The Director of these spots, Michael Franzini, has an interesting background - studies at Carnegie Mellon in such fields as AI research, and seems to have mastered teen consumerism psychology. He wrote the book, literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Systematic Desensitization is the correct term here. </p>
<p>&#8220;The goal of Systematic Desensitization is to overcome this avoidance pattern by gradually exposing patients to the phobic object until it can be tolerated.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apologies for quoting Wikipedia.</p>
<p>The Director of these spots, Michael Franzini, has an interesting background &#8211; studies at Carnegie Mellon in such fields as AI research, and seems to have mastered teen consumerism psychology. He wrote the book, literally.</p>
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		<title>By: Miraculix</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2177&#038;cpage=1#comment-12397</link>
		<dc:creator>Miraculix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Break it down the way they would. Demographics. Dollars.

eMpTyV reaches a primarily youth audience, with some modest crossover during market-specific segments with age-variable sub-audiences. Blah, blah, blah. Read: mostly school-age eyeballs. When different versions of these show up on VacuousHits1, you&#039;ll know the psy-op has moved on to a new and different level.

What the f**k are they trying to say, you ask. Again, look at the specifics; in this case the actual scripting of the portrayal. Closing shot is always a crossover fade to a real image of folks from the Holocaust. I believe that the average American intellect is meant to feel compassion for Jewish people at this point -- up to there the portrayal was an episode of &quot;Cops Meets FEMA&quot;, brought to you by tonight&#039;s sponsors Kellogg, Brown &amp; Root.

Things are about to get tres stupid again in the Levant, and this smells like advanced damage control in the US media ahead of the soon-to-be visible blowing up of Palestinians and other &quot;darkies&quot; via the ongoing exercise of expensive technological fetishism.

Or something rather like that. I don&#039;t see what everyone finds so confusing about it. You could just as easily add a Sheldrakean layer, and suppose that they are building a thought bubble -- a meme -- in the collective generational mind of the younger population that will eventually extrapolate out into that very reality. If you dig on morphogenic theory and the like.

Or maybe the folks at eMpTyV just don&#039;t have anything better to do with their valuable time and big bucket of advertiser dollars than run shocking commercials in the name of &quot;intellectual stimulation&quot;, which is (as ever) nothing more than a thin veil draped over the latest software revision from Tavistock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Break it down the way they would. Demographics. Dollars.</p>
<p>eMpTyV reaches a primarily youth audience, with some modest crossover during market-specific segments with age-variable sub-audiences. Blah, blah, blah. Read: mostly school-age eyeballs. When different versions of these show up on VacuousHits1, you&#8217;ll know the psy-op has moved on to a new and different level.</p>
<p>What the f**k are they trying to say, you ask. Again, look at the specifics; in this case the actual scripting of the portrayal. Closing shot is always a crossover fade to a real image of folks from the Holocaust. I believe that the average American intellect is meant to feel compassion for Jewish people at this point &#8212; up to there the portrayal was an episode of &#8220;Cops Meets FEMA&#8221;, brought to you by tonight&#8217;s sponsors Kellogg, Brown &amp; Root.</p>
<p>Things are about to get tres stupid again in the Levant, and this smells like advanced damage control in the US media ahead of the soon-to-be visible blowing up of Palestinians and other &#8220;darkies&#8221; via the ongoing exercise of expensive technological fetishism.</p>
<p>Or something rather like that. I don&#8217;t see what everyone finds so confusing about it. You could just as easily add a Sheldrakean layer, and suppose that they are building a thought bubble &#8212; a meme &#8212; in the collective generational mind of the younger population that will eventually extrapolate out into that very reality. If you dig on morphogenic theory and the like.</p>
<p>Or maybe the folks at eMpTyV just don&#8217;t have anything better to do with their valuable time and big bucket of advertiser dollars than run shocking commercials in the name of &#8220;intellectual stimulation&#8221;, which is (as ever) nothing more than a thin veil draped over the latest software revision from Tavistock.</p>
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		<title>By: MBerger47</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBerger47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would MTV make these ads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would MTV make these ads?</p>
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		<title>By: pdugan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your interpretation, are they trying to propagandize acceptance of these conditions, or genuienely try to encourage people to think and, perhaps even act, against this potential before it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is your interpretation, are they trying to propagandize acceptance of these conditions, or genuienely try to encourage people to think and, perhaps even act, against this potential before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: anothernut</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=2177&#038;cpage=1#comment-12388</link>
		<dc:creator>anothernut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody feel free to jump in and point out what I&#039;m missing, but...

(Assuming those are the commercials in their entirety, and there isn&#039;t something more to them that invalidates the message conveyed so far) I thought they were pretty cool.  The guys in the scary uniforms carrying the guns were obviously Americans, as were the people they were herding to God-knows-what nightmare.  It says, &quot;it can happen here&quot;, something nobody is talking about on the boob tube, and something everyone in the US should realize is a real possibility, given the current political trends and the high probability of 9/11 II sometime in the next few years.

I take it from the &quot;social engineering&quot; tag that you think it&#039;s not a good thing.  Please elaborate, or correct me if I&#039;ve misinterpreted your designation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody feel free to jump in and point out what I&#8217;m missing, but&#8230;</p>
<p>(Assuming those are the commercials in their entirety, and there isn&#8217;t something more to them that invalidates the message conveyed so far) I thought they were pretty cool.  The guys in the scary uniforms carrying the guns were obviously Americans, as were the people they were herding to God-knows-what nightmare.  It says, &#8220;it can happen here&#8221;, something nobody is talking about on the boob tube, and something everyone in the US should realize is a real possibility, given the current political trends and the high probability of 9/11 II sometime in the next few years.</p>
<p>I take it from the &#8220;social engineering&#8221; tag that you think it&#8217;s not a good thing.  Please elaborate, or correct me if I&#8217;ve misinterpreted your designation.</p>
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		<title>By: mike52t</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely chilling... 
and absolutely possible.</description>
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and absolutely possible.</p>
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