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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=1454&#038;cpage=1#comment-11189</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, just wait for it: &quot;Pandemic Avian Flu&quot; or whatever the F they&#039;re going to call the excuse.

http://cryptogon.com/2006_07_09_blogarchive.html#115249482608736895</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, just wait for it: &#8220;Pandemic Avian Flu&#8221; or whatever the F they&#8217;re going to call the excuse.</p>
<p><a href="http://cryptogon.com/2006_07_09_blogarchive.html#115249482608736895" rel="nofollow">http://cryptogon.com/2006_07_0.....2608736895</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=1454&#038;cpage=1#comment-11188</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently there is legislation before parliament at the moment that will bring NZ into line with overseas anti-terror legislation.

The government is currently insisting that it is merely a coincidence.

Words fail me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently there is legislation before parliament at the moment that will bring NZ into line with overseas anti-terror legislation.</p>
<p>The government is currently insisting that it is merely a coincidence.</p>
<p>Words fail me.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=1454&#038;cpage=1#comment-11182</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t claim to know what kind of email these radical terrorists (snark) whores were using. But let me give any wanna-be a clue: DON&quot;T USE COMCAST IF YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT ARMS WHETHER IN HEART AND MIND OR OTHERWISE. COMCAST IS CENSORING EMAILS. 3 test cases FOR ME are proving positive for censorship.
 Info in emails that were censored concerned gold purchases; bond flim flam scheme INFORMATION from Cryptogon and information from Earthlink re antivirus software. None of these communications were in my screened emails.
 This was posted today on whatreallyhappened.com. Old article. VERY RELEVAnt TO ME!
www.commondreams.org/views05/0716-20.htm
 i&#039;LL BE BACK. NOT FROM MY USUAL CENSORSHIP ACCOUNT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t claim to know what kind of email these radical terrorists (snark) whores were using. But let me give any wanna-be a clue: DON&#8221;T USE COMCAST IF YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT ARMS WHETHER IN HEART AND MIND OR OTHERWISE. COMCAST IS CENSORING EMAILS. 3 test cases FOR ME are proving positive for censorship.<br />
 Info in emails that were censored concerned gold purchases; bond flim flam scheme INFORMATION from Cryptogon and information from Earthlink re antivirus software. None of these communications were in my screened emails.<br />
 This was posted today on whatreallyhappened.com. Old article. VERY RELEVAnt TO ME!<br />
<a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0716-20.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0716-20.htm</a><br />
 i&#8217;LL BE BACK. NOT FROM MY USUAL CENSORSHIP ACCOUNT.</p>
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		<title>By: tochigi</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=1454&#038;cpage=1#comment-11179</link>
		<dc:creator>tochigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah pookie,
we&#039;re back to &quot;thought crimes&quot; again.
it used to be &quot;communism&quot; but now it is anything
&quot;radical&quot;.
nz is a VERY provincial, parochial place. the small-town conservative mindset pervades everything. this is recently overlaid with a sensationalist murdoch-inspired press.

&quot;if you&#039;re different, watch out!&quot; is the number one message.

if i wanted to psycho-analyse, i&#039;d say that the &quot;ordinary&quot; people subconsciously realise that their consumer-binge culture is utterly fcuked but they don&#039;t have a clue what to do instead. so this subconscious fear is leading to more and more lashing out at anyone they perceive as threatening/exposing their wonderful/fcuked consumerist heaven/hell.

cognative dissonance for dummies?
whadya reckon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah pookie,<br />
we&#8217;re back to &#8220;thought crimes&#8221; again.<br />
it used to be &#8220;communism&#8221; but now it is anything<br />
&#8220;radical&#8221;.<br />
nz is a VERY provincial, parochial place. the small-town conservative mindset pervades everything. this is recently overlaid with a sensationalist murdoch-inspired press.</p>
<p>&#8220;if you&#8217;re different, watch out!&#8221; is the number one message.</p>
<p>if i wanted to psycho-analyse, i&#8217;d say that the &#8220;ordinary&#8221; people subconsciously realise that their consumer-binge culture is utterly fcuked but they don&#8217;t have a clue what to do instead. so this subconscious fear is leading to more and more lashing out at anyone they perceive as threatening/exposing their wonderful/fcuked consumerist heaven/hell.</p>
<p>cognative dissonance for dummies?<br />
whadya reckon?</p>
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		<title>By: pookie</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=1454&#038;cpage=1#comment-11177</link>
		<dc:creator>pookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Terrorism Suppression Act appears to be an excellent excuse to harass groups that espouse unpopular views.  I read in a nzherald.co.nz article that a Wellington man&#039;s house was raided (complete with broken window).  The man runs a free bicycle repair shop.  But note how the reporter digs around and &quot;discovers&quot; something damning about this man -- he&#039;s an anarchist!  gasp.  We can&#039;t have those types running around in a free society, eh?

From: 
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10469938&amp;

Buchanan said he had not been involved in any training camps.

He would not say whether he was involved with Greenpeace or any other environmental group, but the Herald found he is a member of Aotearoa Anarchists and has written a pamphlet entitled Anarchy: The Transmogrification of Everyday Life.

In 2001 he was arrested as anti-globalisation protests flared at the G8 protests in Genoa, Italy and he claimed that he was badly beaten by police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Terrorism Suppression Act appears to be an excellent excuse to harass groups that espouse unpopular views.  I read in a nzherald.co.nz article that a Wellington man&#8217;s house was raided (complete with broken window).  The man runs a free bicycle repair shop.  But note how the reporter digs around and &#8220;discovers&#8221; something damning about this man &#8212; he&#8217;s an anarchist!  gasp.  We can&#8217;t have those types running around in a free society, eh?</p>
<p>From:<br />
<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10469938&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sect.....8&#038;amp</a>;</p>
<p>Buchanan said he had not been involved in any training camps.</p>
<p>He would not say whether he was involved with Greenpeace or any other environmental group, but the Herald found he is a member of Aotearoa Anarchists and has written a pamphlet entitled Anarchy: The Transmogrification of Everyday Life.</p>
<p>In 2001 he was arrested as anti-globalisation protests flared at the G8 protests in Genoa, Italy and he claimed that he was badly beaten by police.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=1454&#038;cpage=1#comment-11176</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to add:
&quot;Maori, environmental and political activists&quot;

what a convenient collection of &#039;radicals&#039;. Like the billboard says; Yeah right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to add:<br />
&#8220;Maori, environmental and political activists&#8221;</p>
<p>what a convenient collection of &#8216;radicals&#8217;. Like the billboard says; Yeah right.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=1454&#038;cpage=1#comment-11175</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is how Helen Clark is going to get her 4th term is it?

This sucks. Rednecks and white farmers in New Zealand have been whispering fearfully about things like this for years now so they&#039;ll be loving it. I&#039;m not sure how much I believe, 17 people sounds pathetically small and the idea that Tame Iti is involved makes me laugh. He&#039;s an attentions seeking artist but he fits the bill for this sort of thing because he looks like a freak. Are they going to make him into NZ&#039;s version of Osama bin Laden for God&#039;s sake.

The thing is, wherever this fits on the scale from total false flag opp to genuine event the PTB are going to use this to separate us from one another.  Personally if NZ turns into a fascist state like the US is the only people who are                     going to stand up for themselves are the Maori. White people here are so brainwashed  it&#039;s not funny.

I notice the article says the judge booted the media out at one point because he was worried about the &#039;scant&#039; level of information against Iti and one other person.

What a crap start to the day for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is how Helen Clark is going to get her 4th term is it?</p>
<p>This sucks. Rednecks and white farmers in New Zealand have been whispering fearfully about things like this for years now so they&#8217;ll be loving it. I&#8217;m not sure how much I believe, 17 people sounds pathetically small and the idea that Tame Iti is involved makes me laugh. He&#8217;s an attentions seeking artist but he fits the bill for this sort of thing because he looks like a freak. Are they going to make him into NZ&#8217;s version of Osama bin Laden for God&#8217;s sake.</p>
<p>The thing is, wherever this fits on the scale from total false flag opp to genuine event the PTB are going to use this to separate us from one another.  Personally if NZ turns into a fascist state like the US is the only people who are                     going to stand up for themselves are the Maori. White people here are so brainwashed  it&#8217;s not funny.</p>
<p>I notice the article says the judge booted the media out at one point because he was worried about the &#8217;scant&#8217; level of information against Iti and one other person.</p>
<p>What a crap start to the day for me</p>
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		<title>By: tochigi</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=1454&#038;cpage=1#comment-11174</link>
		<dc:creator>tochigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good to see that our skeptical press is not just regurgitating all this govt propaganda like tame lap dogs, eh?

because we all know that if it&#039;s in the paper or on tv it must be true.

lesson number one for trev and sheila public:
don&#039;t vote for the greens or maoris, they&#039;re tearists.

all for our own good. of course. national security , you see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good to see that our skeptical press is not just regurgitating all this govt propaganda like tame lap dogs, eh?</p>
<p>because we all know that if it&#8217;s in the paper or on tv it must be true.</p>
<p>lesson number one for trev and sheila public:<br />
don&#8217;t vote for the greens or maoris, they&#8217;re tearists.</p>
<p>all for our own good. of course. national security , you see.</p>
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