Comments on: Qwest Refused to Participate with Some Aspects of NSA Surveillance Program

By: kristofer

kristofer — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:05:20 +0000

tsoldrin, you need to read this article kevin wrote regarding those possibilities you mention. http://cryptogon.com/?p=956

By: tsoldrin

tsoldrin — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:51:10 +0000

I will hazard a guess and say some unknown technology is at work here.

I pretty much presume these days that all communication significantly greater than whispering in someone’s ear is monitored, saved, cateloged and indexed these days (the fine point is that they don’t have the analysts to even attempt to comb through it -now-). I base this mostly on my own knowledge of the surveillance technology available during the 80’s. Interestingly enough, the technology back then is fairly close to what they ADMIT to having now. This of course is absurd. Between that time and now, two full epoch in computer time has passed. Back then, they snooped on what they COULD, now they CAN snoop on everything and therefore they almost certainly do.

Now, for the sake of argument, assuming I’m right and they are snooping on pretty much all electronic forms for communication… that STILL would not warrant keeping such a thing secret from the public for 200 years! There’s got to me more to it than that IMO. I hessitate to go even further into speculation-land, but I’m thinking along the lines of monitoring being done even when electronic communication devices are not (actively) being used… like the cell phone stuff Kevin previously reported on perhaps, but not limited to cell phones.

By: JK

JK — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:29:53 +0000

Apparently I’ve fallen for the scam eileen. According to many, Nacchio has chapped many asses himself. Not arguing, but what is it you see in him that makes him a “hero”? Links, explanations, anything would help. I find your line of reasoning intriguing. Very intriguing. And not in a potential flame war sort of way. Just intriguing in a way I’ve never ever considered.

By: Eileen

Eileen — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:26:12 +0000

I’ve written before that I pulled all monies under my control in 2006 out of the stock market. And the reason for doing so?
That Bush wrote an Executive Order that allowed then Negroponte to allow ATT and Verizon to NOT REPORT on their books the cost of colluding with Bush on spying on Americans. Imagine, two mega giant telecommunciations providers, with publicly held stock, given the proviso, by the POTUS, visa vie Executive Order, to LIE to their stockholders on their balance sheets. I heard this driving home one day in my car, on Marketplace.org.
I figured that the day that anyone or anything, be it a company (read Enron) is given license to lie about their costs, expenses, WHATEVER is is the day I want out of it all.
I regret I don’t have the links to the reading material, but the Bushites have done their best to destroy Nachio since the day he resisted spying on Americans. Yes indeed.
ATT and Verizon can merge, surge and devour telecommunication companies like sharks feeding on minnows at leisure under the FCC: but Nacchio, he’s had his balls busted by the FCC, the CIA or whatever. You know what I mean. This administration is on a KILL regime when it comes to Nacchio. And if he doesn’t commit suicide by himself any day soon, be sure that we will soon read it in the news that he did.
Bush is now all out for protecting ATT and Verizon RETROACTIVELY against lawsuits filed against them for participating in the Bush- totally illegal, totally illegal, totally illegal spying program. George, ATT and Verizon – do you hear me now?
YOU SUCK.
I don’t think its alright by me to destroy Nachio who upheld the law, but then give the free pass to suck asses like ATT & Verizon and then allow them to suck up all the little guys, but then hammer Nachio who only had integrity, wanted a little piece of the cake, and then had his balls busted when he recognized revenue just too soon for the Nazi’s who laid the trap for him.
Unlike Tenet, Bremer, and the other numbnut sellouts that received a worthless medal from this worthless piece who doles out worthless medals for their parts in creating worthless world war without end with any peoples in the world with oil under their soil, NACCHIO has BALLS and HE SHOULD RECIEVE THE MEDAL FOR COMMON SENSE and INTEGRITY.
I for one think Nacchio has balls of steel to resist the lure of power, the promise of money, a feigned allegiance to DAS BUSH.
If I had any CASH I’d be buying stock in his company regardless of its worth or value as an investment. Now that I think of it, I have a stock broker that once was my landlord and recommened Quest years ago.
I think I’ll make a protest stock purchase tommorrow. Even if I buy 1 share and pay the commission, Wall Street and NANCY PELOSI, HILARY CLINTON, THE ENTIRE BUSH CULT AND ALL OF THE NEOCONS AND THE CULT OF FOX, THINK TANKS ETC THAT ARE THE HEMMORhOID’S OF THIS WORLD need some kind of hard reaming up their petunia’s that there is REAL VALUE in a company and a CEO THAT DOESN’T GO WITH THE PROGRAM OF LYING, CHEATING, STEALING, and SPYING.
I won’t apologize. The crusade against Nacchio really chaps my ass.
Find a way to read about Nachio and what Bush and his cronies have done to destroy him. I can’t tonight. Wish I could.