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	<title>Comments on: And Now&#8230; Texas Army Killer Linked to September 11 Terrorists</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Gogulski</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=12034&#038;cpage=1#comment-17714</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Larry: &quot;We&quot;, who, exactly? I ain&#039;t in your club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Larry: &#8220;We&#8221;, who, exactly? I ain&#8217;t in your club.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=12034&#038;cpage=1#comment-17707</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learning you are going to be deployed is no small thing.
 Imagine.
 Interesting interview.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_war_comes_homes_iraq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learning you are going to be deployed is no small thing.<br />
 Imagine.<br />
 Interesting interview.<br />
<a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/9/when_the_war_comes_homes_iraq" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/20.....homes_iraq</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peregrino</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=12034&#038;cpage=1#comment-17706</link>
		<dc:creator>Peregrino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muslims come in all stripes, like any other group casually identified with each other by outsiders. Would you tar the Jehovah&#039;s Witness fence with the same Christian brush with which you tar the Episcopalian fence? Of course not. The issue has nothing to do with faith. It has to do with sociopathic power seekers attaching themselves to the most volatile vehicle to exercize their predeliction. For Hitler, it was politics. For Manson it was social liberation. For a sociopathic power seeking Saudi, Afghani, Pakistani it is radical fundamentalism. It has nothing to do with Islam. It has everything to do with a radicalized percentage of the population desperately seeking security in a part of the world whose traditions have been fatally compromised by modernism. The vast majority of Muslims of all backgrounds have adapted to modernism to one extent or the other and, like the rest of us, grovel along begrudgingly but peacefully in the fragmented, alienating world of late industrialism. But those incapable of adapting to modernism constitute a fertile resource for the sociopathic power seeker who promises them the security of a utopian fantasy, the same utopian fantasy promised by the Jerry Falwells and Pat Robertsons of the West. We all have only one choice today: modernize or die. But we all know that to modernize is to degenerate into a redundant consumer, despite the fact that modernizing requires working overtime just to keep up. A Talib couldn&#039;t modernize if he wanted to. So his choice is to either die or buy into the utopian fantasy, never mind that he is empowering a sociopathic power seeker, and becoming one himself, in the process. If these people were truly Islam they would do what Islam means: surrender. They would surrender to God and spend their time contemplating eternity. True religion offers an alternative to the choice the world gives us, and that alternative is to transcend the choice. Any other alternative is not religious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muslims come in all stripes, like any other group casually identified with each other by outsiders. Would you tar the Jehovah&#8217;s Witness fence with the same Christian brush with which you tar the Episcopalian fence? Of course not. The issue has nothing to do with faith. It has to do with sociopathic power seekers attaching themselves to the most volatile vehicle to exercize their predeliction. For Hitler, it was politics. For Manson it was social liberation. For a sociopathic power seeking Saudi, Afghani, Pakistani it is radical fundamentalism. It has nothing to do with Islam. It has everything to do with a radicalized percentage of the population desperately seeking security in a part of the world whose traditions have been fatally compromised by modernism. The vast majority of Muslims of all backgrounds have adapted to modernism to one extent or the other and, like the rest of us, grovel along begrudgingly but peacefully in the fragmented, alienating world of late industrialism. But those incapable of adapting to modernism constitute a fertile resource for the sociopathic power seeker who promises them the security of a utopian fantasy, the same utopian fantasy promised by the Jerry Falwells and Pat Robertsons of the West. We all have only one choice today: modernize or die. But we all know that to modernize is to degenerate into a redundant consumer, despite the fact that modernizing requires working overtime just to keep up. A Talib couldn&#8217;t modernize if he wanted to. So his choice is to either die or buy into the utopian fantasy, never mind that he is empowering a sociopathic power seeker, and becoming one himself, in the process. If these people were truly Islam they would do what Islam means: surrender. They would surrender to God and spend their time contemplating eternity. True religion offers an alternative to the choice the world gives us, and that alternative is to transcend the choice. Any other alternative is not religious.</p>
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		<title>By: skeevie</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=12034&#038;cpage=1#comment-17705</link>
		<dc:creator>skeevie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised no one has uncovered Hasan&#039;s ties to Saddam Hussein. I mean, there must be some, right? Every other canard of the paranoid right has been dredged up so far, I figured this had to be on the menu. I guess Saddam is just too &quot;yesterday&quot; for today&#039;s FOX-addled wingnuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised no one has uncovered Hasan&#8217;s ties to Saddam Hussein. I mean, there must be some, right? Every other canard of the paranoid right has been dredged up so far, I figured this had to be on the menu. I guess Saddam is just too &#8220;yesterday&#8221; for today&#8217;s FOX-addled wingnuts.</p>
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		<title>By: seanx38</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=12034&#038;cpage=1#comment-17701</link>
		<dc:creator>seanx38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, no one turned this up in background checks? Ever? The US Army keep promoting him? Gave him security clearance? 

Does anyone really believe this shit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, no one turned this up in background checks? Ever? The US Army keep promoting him? Gave him security clearance? </p>
<p>Does anyone really believe this shit?</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=12034&#038;cpage=1#comment-17700</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely, this is a joke that the MSM and PTB figured out a way to tie this pitiful man to 9/11? Sounds like the single bullet theory and JFK to me. Just like that bullet that traveled through everything and everyone and that , every Muslim who commits a crime is going to be linked to 9/11? I think this is a mighty BIG stretch of credulity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely, this is a joke that the MSM and PTB figured out a way to tie this pitiful man to 9/11? Sounds like the single bullet theory and JFK to me. Just like that bullet that traveled through everything and everyone and that , every Muslim who commits a crime is going to be linked to 9/11? I think this is a mighty BIG stretch of credulity.</p>
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		<title>By: edwardo</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=12034&#038;cpage=1#comment-17698</link>
		<dc:creator>edwardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Glick you are confused. Islam isn&#039;t any more a racial identity than Christianity is.  Nor is it a national identity, despite recruitment by Islam of the disenfranchised.  one can make the case that Islam has demonstrated the power to mitigate racial differences under the banner of Islam, but it is still a highly problematic argument since the evidence for &quot;unity&quot; in Islam is more fiction than fact. 

Consider the long standing antipathy between, for example, Iran and Iraq which is the result of deep sectarian divisions that are deeply divisive throughout Islam. Americans may not understand Islam at all, but I would argue that the average Muslim has only a slightly better handle on the vagaries of Islam which stretches from Morocco to Indonesia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Glick you are confused. Islam isn&#8217;t any more a racial identity than Christianity is.  Nor is it a national identity, despite recruitment by Islam of the disenfranchised.  one can make the case that Islam has demonstrated the power to mitigate racial differences under the banner of Islam, but it is still a highly problematic argument since the evidence for &#8220;unity&#8221; in Islam is more fiction than fact. </p>
<p>Consider the long standing antipathy between, for example, Iran and Iraq which is the result of deep sectarian divisions that are deeply divisive throughout Islam. Americans may not understand Islam at all, but I would argue that the average Muslim has only a slightly better handle on the vagaries of Islam which stretches from Morocco to Indonesia.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Glick</title>
		<link>http://cryptogon.com/?p=12034&#038;cpage=1#comment-17697</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Glick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most Americans do not understand is that, Islam is not simply another religion.  It is an ethnic and racial as well as a nationalistic identity.  During the 1960&#039;s, when mainstream Christianity and Judaism in America was basically silent, Islam was actively recruiting the most alienated of Americans, African-Americans.  This was a natural extension of what Islam has done in Africa, the Mid-East, and Asia for centuries.  That is, recruitment from the aliened and downtrodden.  And the belief system that develops is not simply religious.  It is a unity of purpose and separation from the Infidel.  Our lack of knowledge and understanding is continuing to cost us dearly as a society and will continue to do so until we wake up and face the music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most Americans do not understand is that, Islam is not simply another religion.  It is an ethnic and racial as well as a nationalistic identity.  During the 1960&#8217;s, when mainstream Christianity and Judaism in America was basically silent, Islam was actively recruiting the most alienated of Americans, African-Americans.  This was a natural extension of what Islam has done in Africa, the Mid-East, and Asia for centuries.  That is, recruitment from the aliened and downtrodden.  And the belief system that develops is not simply religious.  It is a unity of purpose and separation from the Infidel.  Our lack of knowledge and understanding is continuing to cost us dearly as a society and will continue to do so until we wake up and face the music.</p>
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